Likewise!! Much appreciate the understanding and patience 🤝

I am doing the opposite of that.
I don't describe org *members*, I describe average well-meaning people who share posts from their friends and try to boycott starbucks and the like. And that even their focus & sources get skewed that way.
I completely agree with you, why the hell would I do that??

I'm afraid the diff is, 🇵🇸&~🇷🇺 took hold in orgs/academia's ideological leadership a long time ago and was dormant. Now they took charge. And the average person who just wants to do the right thing they hear about on tiktok follows! Why would they freaking know what some dsa chapter endorsed!

Even among the well-adjusted median poster, who's 🇵🇸&🇺🇦, boycotts starbucks, doesn't know what nato is, maybe donated to uaf...
I realized I don't see those mutuals religiously follow some 🇺🇦 bds. Or profile politicians' 🇺🇦 statements. Everybody's playing "find the ziоnist" but why not the other thing?

imo it's just objectively an extremely important angle that any serious thesis on what's going on there would look into. It DOES matter that it didn't spring into existence yesterday no matter how you interpret this. To me this is, ironically, purely about wanting to see effort and research done.

There are bad ways to train AI, but in general, it's "using" existing work to do what an artist studying it would do: Learning concepts and how those concepts map to visual data. Is it "theft of labor" if I, or a machine, look at pictures of cars to determine what cars look like? It's data analysis.

I'm not saying it's ethical for a company to train AI on the work of its workers for the sake of firing them and passing the savings onto itself. But you're simultaneously framing genAI as doing something it's not, while claiming aspects it shares with normal human artistry are new and unethical.

Also, if you want to get abstract: Any artist "uses" prior labor of all artists whose work they see, and builds upon that as a foundation. That's how culture and learning work. Is it theft of labor if an artist does that instead of growing up in a cave and reinventing graphical art from scratch?

It's hard for me not to take this as wanting a full social network where people are ignorant and stupid about these things and everyone just repeats to each other what they have to believe. Pressuring everyone to fall in line like this is so weird and authoritarian. Hate that shit.

Maybe we agreed with them! But we preceded it with a mildly phrased personal feeling towards a guy who cheered for mass killing jews. And you know what enrages them. That we think we can even say that.
Like, who do these jews think they are?!

And nothing on earth is as utterly ridiculous and unreal as people who compulsively play stupid word games like "IsNotReal" or "the entity."

Normal criticism of Israel: "The occupation of the West Bank and the siege of Gaza are vile crimes against Israel's treaty obligations under international law."
Antisemitism: "Every Israeli's name and culture are fake; they should be sent back to Poland to die."

Dealing with 2 nationalist twitter armies baying for each other's blood, revenge, etc is hard enough, don't need overnight experts, diasporic nationalists, and others who have no knowledge or skin in the game start their hot takes

I love when far left news sites have a style guide where they always refer to, say, Minneapolis as ”so-called ‘Minneapolis’”

when you see the word Israel in scare quotes, that’s how you know you’re about to read a Very Normal Post