I've read in an academic book that, Arthur Hertzberg's The Jews in America, the Irish in America supported the papal kidnapping of a Jewish child.

I don't understand your reply,

And i didn't mean to reply to you, sorry

This is a weirdly deeply held conviction of a specific subset of anti-Zionist gentiles. I encountered one recently who conceived of Israel as “Ashkenazi Zionist supremacy,” didn’t know other Jewish ethnic groups existed, and when Mizrahim were pointed out to him, jumped into phrenology.

to the extent it's gray it's because of Russia. There's a good case for Poles and especially Jews not seeing any good guys in that war

I worked a bit in Poland in 2000 and there is a tower in the Warsaw central square that has plaques describing what you can see from each direction.

The sign describing the since-rebuilt Jewish Ghetto as the place “the Jews wrecked”. I had to look at that for a long time for it to sink in.

It reminded me of nothing so much as a Polish gamer I spoke to once who said, confused, "How can we be racist in Poland? There are almost no minorities here."

Or of... well, I was going to single out Brits, but pretty much across Europe folks who'll feel smugly superior to the US on race relations,

And, within a week of launch, I remember how many people were shocked by how casually characters in-game would drop in-world slurs.

Characters that were meant to be sympathetic, for whom "is casually racist" wasn't a big red flag or something your character can comment on, just a character trait.

I actually think the headline is misleading. Yad Vashem criticized it, which is an Israeli-government sponsored institution, yes, but they've also clashed with Netanyahu at times on his willingness to overlook antisemitism on the European far-right. And Netanyahu's gov, notably, has said nothing.

Clearly omitting any reference to the Celts, Bretons, Romans, Angles, Saxons, Danes and Normans along with the subsequent immigration of Jews, Huguenots, Russians, Poles, Germans, Africans. Exactly what is Britain’s native ethnic group?

Much ink has been spilled, and podcast minutes spent, discussing why Jews historically haven't voted (and still don't vote—see Election 2024 numbers) like most other "white ethnics," who have gradually drifted, during the time they've been considered white, over to the GOP.

Don’t worry, Italian-Americans! You’ll fight the Nazis with the WASPs, Irish, & Germans for 4 years, then you and the Jews and the Poles will get to be white, and before long many of you (though mostly not the Jews) will be Reagan voters together! It’s the American Dream!

notesfrompoland.com/2023/06/02/o...

apnews.com/article/pola...

I grew up in Israel, large percentage of Jews of Poland origin, never heard anything positive about Poles and Poland besides maybe some individual rightous among the nations

He (obviously) grew as a person over time, but that whole business started with "using Jews is cheaper than using ethnic Poles". The guy also betrayed his country (Czechoslovakia) by spying for the Nazis; when he was caught he claimed he only did it for the money.

I will give you a very straight answer to this. In Ukraine for someone to willingly collaborate with the Nazis it took a bigger hatred of Jews and the poles plus a huge dose of occupational blindness toward how the Nazis treated fellow Ukrainians.

Bandera's assassination was targeted. He was allowed to live until the KGB could learn who in Ukraine and Belarus were actively sabotaging the USSR. The failure of Operation silver and gold was also because of Gehlen.

The Gehlen Organisation was , again, full of actual Nazis. Denazification ended in the western zone in 1949. Hell, the whole reason 2 separate anarchist terrorist organizations Sprung up in the 70s, targeting people like Kurt Schleyer because they were silent in the past.

Yeah, sorry but that's just plain wrong. He worked with Nazis until his death. The precursor to bnd, , the Gehlen Organisation was chock full of Nazis and the soviets easily infiltrated them.