#crosschannelrail
Errare humanum est 😊

Especially in #CrossChannelRail, it's SO complicated. Kinda 🛤️version of that hellish Rubik game.
December 30, 2025 at 7:10 PM
Brilliant discussion by @jonworth.eu on prospects for #CrossChannelRail.

2 (minor) errors:
. there are through services by ex-Thalys Bruxelles M - Düsseldorf Hbf
. The decision to extend juxtaposed 🛂 controls to 🇫🇷🇬🇧 HSR predates 9/11.
it was made in 2000 owing to undocumented asylum seekers.
Want a LOT more detail on all of this?

My latest discussion with Richard Bowker on Green Signals about all of this went live today: www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAwz...

I will respond to all outstanding questions on Youtube now
Cross Channel Rail – What works and what doesn’t?
YouTube video by Green Signals
www.youtube.com
December 30, 2025 at 6:08 PM
Oh and maybe my choice of picture for my #CrossChannelRail final report was not so bad after all! 🎉

crosschannelrail.eu/crosschannel...

/ends
December 30, 2025 at 4:10 PM
OK, so today's #CrossChannelRail news: Trenitalia is serious that it still wants to try to run to London

Story is paywalled, but there's only really one noteworthy thing in here - that US private equity firm Certares is involved in the financing
www.telegraph.co.uk/business/202...
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December 30, 2025 at 4:10 PM
Oh and maybe my choice of picture for my #crosschannelrail final report was not so bad after all! 🎉

https://crosschannelrail.eu/crosschannelrail/crosschannelrail-report/

/ends
December 30, 2025 at 4:10 PM
Not sure if you have seen this @jonworth.eu. Might not need to go through the BS Meter. The Telegraph has also reported it. In their article there is speculation that Trenitalia cross channel services would launch in 2029. #CrossChannelRail

www.voyages-d-affaires.com/en/trenitali...
Trenitalia France accelerates its development with Certares
The Certares investment fund is investing in Trenitalia France to support its growth and projects. Here are the details.
www.voyages-d-affaires.com
December 30, 2025 at 4:03 PM
OK, so today's #crosschannelrail news: Trenitalia is serious that it still wants to try to run to London

Story is paywalled, but there's only really one noteworthy thing in here - that US private equity firm Certares is involved in the financing […]
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gruene.social
December 30, 2025 at 4:00 PM
Damn, there's a Telegraph article about #crosschannelrail I could do with reading, but it doesn't count among the freebies I get each month, and I am definitely not paying for that trash

Does anyone I know have a way to get this? 🤔 […]
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gruene.social
December 30, 2025 at 3:36 PM
I still managed to cover a lot of ground on my 5 day #Interrail Swissmas adventure & this trip was a milestone as I have now travelled on 5️⃣0️⃣ #Eurostar trains to & from London #Trainsnotplanes 🎉🚄🛤️🇪🇺 #CrossChannelRail #CrossBorderRail
December 30, 2025 at 8:33 AM
🐖 might fly when HM Government finally agree to remove Channel Terminals and normalise #CrossChannelRail passengers traffic.

But in the meantime,

. the 5 mothballed terminals (Ebbsfleet, Ashford, Calais F, MLV, Avignon C) must reopen

. Stratford must open to 🇬🇧🇫🇷 traffic, upgraded as per Gemini
🔜
December 21, 2025 at 8:48 PM
HS1 Ltd is expanding the capacity at St Pancras... 🤔 I have known for AGES this is in planning (and was leaked some documents about it, also ages ago). I can't tell if this story is some new plan, or re-hashing the old ones. In any case it's welcome! #CrossChannelRail www.ft.com/content/ff71...
London St Pancras revamp aims to cut Eurostar waiting time to 15 minutes
Planned £100mn overhaul of train station will seek to end ‘holding pen’ experience for passengers
www.ft.com
December 19, 2025 at 7:33 PM
HS1 Ltd is expanding the capacity at St Pancras... 🤔 I have known for AGES this is in planning (and was leaked some documents about it, also ages ago). I can't tell if this story is some new plan, or re-hashing the old ones. In any case it's welcome! #crosschannelrail […]
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gruene.social
December 19, 2025 at 7:33 PM
If access to Temple Mills gets mired in legal process, or someone other than Virgin wants to rival Eurostar on #CrossChannelRail, then a new maintenance depot is going to be needed

But WHERE?

I have had a go at answering that!
crosschannelrail.eu/if-you-were-...
If you were to build a depot for Channel Tunnel passenger trains, where would you build it?
When it was announced that Virgin Trains was successful in being allocated maintenance depot capacity at Temple Mills in east London, there was a sort of reaction "we'll that will mean that Virgin wil...
crosschannelrail.eu
December 18, 2025 at 2:16 PM
If access to Temple Mills gets mired in legal process, or someone other than Virgin wants to rival Eurostar on #crosschannelrail, then a new maintenance depot is going to be needed

But WHERE?

I have had a go at answering that! […]
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gruene.social
December 18, 2025 at 2:17 PM
😡

For #crosschannelrail I am checking possible maintenance locations in greater Paris

Look at the route from Vaires to Paris Nord 🤯

Zoomable map
https://signal.eu.org/osm/#locs=48.874019,2.640842;49.006891,2.571082;48.880400,2.354973

When they build LGV Est […]

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December 18, 2025 at 10:50 AM
It's no use making big #CrossChannelRail freight-related investments in 🇨🇵🇧🇪 if capacity is under strain on the 🇬🇧 side.
December 15, 2025 at 8:32 PM
If you want more #CrossChannelRail freight, then you need to increase capacity on some key corridors in 🇬🇧 and to re-gauge those to GC.
December 15, 2025 at 5:50 PM
So Trenitalia *is* looking for a maintenance location in greater Paris www.bfmtv.com/economie/ent...

This is in line with my thinking that running #CrossChannelRail to London *without* Temple Mills access might work crosschannelrail.eu/not-being-al...
Not being allocated depot space at Temple Mills: blessing in disguise?
As the discussion about future rivals to Eurostar has heated up, so more and more of the focus has been on access to the Temple Mills depot in East London. The Office of Rail and Road (ORR) last week ...
crosschannelrail.eu
December 10, 2025 at 8:06 PM
Cross the Rhein 3 times to allow a Frankfurt (Main) - London train to serve Köln Hbf?

Scarcely plausible, but I have explained the idea on the #CrossChannelRail website!

crosschannelrail.eu/a-creative-s...
A creative solution to serve Köln Hbf en route from Frankfurt (Main) to London
One of the aspects of my #CrossChannelRail report that drew the most reaction was my conclusion that serving Köln Hbf with trains to London was too complicated, and it would better to serve Köln/Bonn ...
crosschannelrail.eu
December 10, 2025 at 7:07 PM
Cross the Rhein 3 times to allow a Frankfurt (Main) - London train to serve Köln Hbf?

Scarcely plausible, but I have explained the idea on the #crosschannelrail website!

https://crosschannelrail.eu/a-creative-solution-to-serve-koln-hbf-en-route-from-frankfurt-main-to-london/
A creative solution to serve Köln Hbf en route from Frankfurt (Main) to London
One of the aspects of my #CrossChannelRail report that drew the most reaction was my conclusion that serving Köln Hbf with trains to London was too complicated, and it would better to serve Köln/Bonn Flughafen or Horrem instead – as it would be easier to secure a platform and build a terminal at either of those alternative stops. The issue at Köln Hbf is not so much securing a platform, but getting a train in and out of it. You could envisage a Rotterdam Centraal style solution for Gleis 1 at Köln Hbf – that is the single platform on the building side. And find space within the building (where the DB lounge is, or perhaps even when the DB staff canteen is located currently) for check in procedures. 10 minutes prior to the train arriving, the platform would be secured, passengers then board, and off goes the train. However the problem with Gleis 1 is that is faces the wrong way – trains exit from it eastbound. Were you to want to exit from it westbound towards Ehrenfeld and onwards towards Aachen and Bruxelles you have to cross all the congested tracks at the western end of Köln Hbf, and that is a recipe for delays and an unreliable service. So I ruled that out. However yesterday I was approached by someone who listed to a presentation of mine in Paris with an alternative suggestion. How about routing like this (Zoomable version here): A train from Frankfurt to London would first cross the Südbrücke (south bridge), enter Hbf from the west, out eastwards as is normal from Gleis 1, and then go via Deutzerfeld and Kalk and around to the Südbrücke once more, before then heading towards Ehrenfeld and Aachen. Yes, this would add 15 minutes to the trip time, but – so the proponent of the idea argued – better that than wasting time changing some stop at the edge of the city. While the solution is most definitely creative and would provide some nice views of Köln, it brings its own problems. Martin Hoffmann pointed out the headaches around Deutzerfeld, Alexander Krumreich sensibly argued that as so much rail infrastructure around Köln is already over capacity crossing the Rhein three times makes no sense, and NymeHess, Bela and Mac the squirrel worried about the likelihood of delays. So yes, I will add a reference to this idea in a future update of the #CrossChannelRail report, but for now I am sticking to the alternative stations as the way to serve Köln! ### Share this content * share * share * share * email ### Jon ### Leave a Comment Cancel Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked * Message: Name: Email Address: Website: Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. #### ← Previous Post ### The Avelia Horizon trains Eurostar has ordered from Alstom are not compliant with Channel Tunnel evacuation rules - what can be done about it?
crosschannelrail.eu
December 10, 2025 at 7:09 PM
Today one of the people who listened to my #CrossChannelRail presentation in Paris made a very odd suggestion how to serve Köln Hbf on the way to London

Like this! 🤯

Detail #locs.eu.org/osm/#locs=50.106169,8.662830;50.927601,6.937271;50.942529,6.958294;50.943178,7.012882;50.927601,6.937271;50.767766,6.091382" class="hover:underline text-blue-600 dark:text-sky-400 no-card-link" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-link="bsky">signal.eu.org/osm/#locs=50...
December 9, 2025 at 8:20 PM
Today one of the people who listened to my #crosschannelrail presentation in Paris made a very odd suggestion how to serve Köln Hbf on the way to London

Like this! 🤯

Detail https://signal.eu.org/osm/#locs=50.106169,8.662830;50.927601,6.937271;50.942529,6 […]

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December 9, 2025 at 9:24 PM
I’m in Paris today to give a presentation about #CrossBorderRail & #CrossChannelRail at a large organisation, in French, and unpaid. I even have to cover my own train ticket. I’m basically doing them a favour

But damn they’re so dysfunctional they can’t even let me present from my own computer.
December 9, 2025 at 1:18 PM
Es tut mir leid, dass es auf Englisch ist, aber hier ist ein Thread, der die Probleme mit Direktverbindungen von Deutschland nach London erklärt.

https://gruene.social/@jon/115662542011231373

#crosschannelrail
Jon Worth (@jon@gruene.social)
Attached: 1 image So Deutsche Bahn is finally, after all these years waiting, going TO RUN TRAINS FROM GERMANY TO LONDON! #CrossChannelRail
gruene.social
December 6, 2025 at 7:57 AM