You can be a disciplined, highly trained and effective fighting force, committed to winning a war, or you can be yokels shooting up buildings full of civilians with tanks and sniping civilians. Can't be both.

Right, like I feel like we're missing the point here

Everybody knows this, so what are we even arguing about here?

I think pointing out that in some respects things are worse for ordinary or poor Americans than they used to be is not necessarily an argument for returning to a certain point in time

Man shut the fuck up