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withoutqualities.bsky.social
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@withoutqualities.bsky.social
All my friends are doomers but they think you're pretty hot
I thought you were replying to her, yes, but also talking about a broader concern with the green project and it's politics. I thought that was a reasonable assumption but I guess I had that wrong.
November 16, 2025 at 11:32 AM
But it seems odd to say that your comment was only about what that one person said. If that was seriously the case it seems your comment about the green project losing would mean the green project hinges on that one woman's opinion.
November 16, 2025 at 11:31 AM
I think that dynamic does spell some very real problems, you seem less convinced that it does. Fine.
November 16, 2025 at 11:29 AM
If this is a genuine question, I had QTd your post because I thought it summed up a dynamic that is real: that green politics can't reconcile with people's desire to consume in the way they currently do.
November 16, 2025 at 11:29 AM
Apologies, I thought you had moved to talk more generally about the green project.
November 16, 2025 at 11:14 AM
Right, and I think it's fair to say that it is the reduction that our erstwhile OP, to whom you responded, was getting at in her hyperbole.
November 16, 2025 at 11:07 AM
If net-zero, a woefully inadequate policy, is beyond the pale, I'm not sure we're getting a meaningful decarbonisation. And even if we did, that doesn't address ecological overshoot all by itself—that being the more serious problem.
November 16, 2025 at 11:05 AM
Yes, and I acknowledged that. That's the precise double-bind we are in.

And I don't think it's fair to say the green movement leads with the hairshirt anyway. Net-zero was the big green politics most people will have heard off, it meant very little, and is dead.
November 16, 2025 at 11:03 AM
Oh right. You just mean getting rid of a lobbying group.
November 16, 2025 at 11:02 AM
there's a body of research in the degrowth literature on precisely this issue that argues we cannot decarbonise our way of life without reducing some of our high consumption industries. This isn't the same as the first person's village comment, but I accept she's overstating things
November 16, 2025 at 11:00 AM
These are all things we need to do, sure. But it isn't either/or, and nor is climate the single problem. Even if it were, doing all of these things is not carbon-neutral or emission free. There would still need to be significant trade-offs, even if the person you replied to overstates things.
November 16, 2025 at 10:53 AM
When big oil dies what happens to flying?
November 16, 2025 at 10:47 AM
So OP is right, no one is going to choose climate asceticism, but it's wrong to pretend there's some other alternative on the horizon. There isn't.
November 16, 2025 at 10:38 AM
We need degrowth but no one likes it so billions of people have to die
November 16, 2025 at 10:37 AM
Quick reminder that a fairly conservative organisation that runs risk projections that underwrite the insurance industry expect this to mean 50% lose in global GDP and billions of dead in the next decades

www.theguardian.com/environment/...
Global economy could face 50% loss in GDP between 2070 and 2090 from climate shocks, say actuaries
Exclusive: Report by risk experts says previous assessments ignored severe effects of climate crisis
www.theguardian.com
November 16, 2025 at 10:37 AM
The Lib Dems actually exist for people who vote Tory to vote someone else when they think the Tories have gone too far
November 14, 2025 at 8:54 PM
I was a big fan of tmt for about 15 years but in recent time it's been shown to be so empirically poor as to be declared by some as a dead theory
November 10, 2025 at 9:38 AM
Don't lie
November 9, 2025 at 9:50 AM
I work in the university sector providing mental health support to students, and changes to immigration mean my department is working with less resources to support people with increasingly complex and high risk presentations, making the work more dangerous and harder to deliver
November 9, 2025 at 9:25 AM