I’ll be back once the shutdown is over, if my willpower holds out. I need a decompression break.

Chamberlain (or GOP astroturfer) finally blocked me. Please don’t give this asshole any rest. Shoo them back to X where they belong.

YOU ARE COLLAPSING THE COUNTRY THAT I (AND ACTUAL LIBS / PROGRESSIVES) CARE ABOUT AND WANT TO DEFEND BY CAPITULATING. There’s nothing worth saving once you give it all away.

Jesus Christ you’re stupid. Fuck off boomer.

If you’re not a GOP astroturfer, you’re sick in the head. Fuck off back to X.

Hell I probably can’t name a thing you wouldn’t surrender in the name of “stability”. This country isn’t fucking worth saving if we’re just gonna have assholes like you give everything away to Trump for free.

Oh sorry I tempered my language in my last reply because you hadn’t gone full mask off.

I’ll bite. Fuck you you fucking doddering (clearly) boomer. You’ll give up healthcare, our entire safety net, all progress on race and equality, trans rights…

Maybe watch a movie other than Dunkirk. Or perhaps even do some reading (gasp) that explains the causes of WWII rather than just single battles once we were already in it.

You might have a different take on how to handle fascists after you brush up on history. We’ve already learned these things.

You’re know what you’re right. We should give Trump the Sudetenland. I’m sure the country he remakes in his image will be worth saving, as you suggest.

You’re a maga-lite clown and I’m done with this conversation. Dunkirk wouldn’t have needed to happen at all if Chamberlain hadn’t caved.

But now we’re in it. He won’t give Dems, or Americans, anything unless it’s dire now. It would undermine his claims that everything is perfect under Trump.

I didn’t support the shutdown initially because I wanted Dems to take a more grassroots approach showing how health insurance bills were going up to force Trump to act.

Adding the other thread I stupidly started with this person so you can see their responses.

I’m not arguing any more because they’re in favor of giving Trump whatever he wants to avoid any disruptions to our precious economy.

If you wondered if a Chamberlain persona still could exist in 2025…

You think you’re clever throwing an ahistorical example in, but the real corollary is that you and Schumer are trying to be Chamberlain to Trump.

There is no appeasement here. You give him an inch he’ll take a mile. He’s not going to negotiate once the govt is reopened are you insane?

I am being sane, realistic, and tactical.

If no one has health insurance and another pandemic sweeps through this winter, what do you think happens?

Dems just crushed Trumpian candidates in the elections by fighting back. Now you want to immediately capitulate?

Neither of these say that Republicans should give in and save subsidies that barely help a vanishing number of Americans afford unaffordable health plans.

They just say “air safety / commerce is more important than whatever you guys are fighting about, open the government”

I don’t know what you’re reading but this is not the “same page” from what I can see.

They’re saying “open the government right this second”. They are decidedly not saying “Give Americans the bare minimum of subsidies necessary to afford shitty health insurance so we can open the government”.

Apple News article link:

He’s asking the DOJ to investigate capitalism. Want to guess what they find?