Neil Lareau
neillareau.bsky.social
Neil Lareau
@neillareau.bsky.social
Prof. of Atmos Sci. @unevadareno. Mountain WX, Wildfire Plumes, Backcountry Skiing, Frontcountry Dadding. Formerly: @SJSUmeteorology @UUtah
@Livermore_Lab @MWObs https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=UGaGnAgAAAAJ&hl=en
Roger that!
June 26, 2025 at 2:04 AM
And to be clear, it still would not be likely that you could match the really fast tsunami wave speed in lake tahoe with a squall line's forward speed...
June 25, 2025 at 8:48 PM
My evolving understanding of these though is that even for a small pressure perturbation if the propagation speed of the pressure induced wave (i.e, c=sqrt(gH)) is phase locked with the gust front then you keep pumping (wind stress) energy into it and build a bigger wave?
June 25, 2025 at 8:47 PM
There is something screwy with the time stamps, but I’m 99% sure that is the correct interval
June 25, 2025 at 4:19 PM
Here is the high resolution pressure data, showing a 3 mb increase in pressure consistent with the dropping temperature (e.g., hydrostatic pressure change due to the cold frontal passage).
June 25, 2025 at 8:56 AM
But I really don't know how coupled lake and wind dynamics work beyond... so please educate me if any of ya'll have insights.
June 25, 2025 at 1:06 AM
6/n: However, Lake Tahoe is really deep, so the shallow water gravity wave speed is really fast (>50 m/s), so unlikely there is resonance between a propagating wave in the lake and the gust front...
June 25, 2025 at 12:40 AM
5/n: The winds alone are strong (44 mph), but not severe. The wave response, in contrast is quite notable. It has me wondering about the "meteotsunami" phenomenon (agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10....). This is pure speculation and I'd be keen to here a deeper background on the topic.
Meteotsunami occurrences and causes in Lake Michigan
Water level records indicate that meteotsunamis occur throughout the Lake Michigan basin Pareto family distributions describe size-frequency character of meteotsunamis Convective and frontal system...
agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com
June 25, 2025 at 12:39 AM
4/n: Next up are wave data. This plot from TERC, shows that the wave heights follow a pattern similar to the wind ramp on 6/21, suddenly reaching above 1 m. The abrupt increase in way height is really an alarming signal.
June 25, 2025 at 12:39 AM
3/n: The corresponding temperature data show a sharp drop in temperature consistent with the frontal passage enhanced by diabatic cooling (evaporation) beneath the thunderstorms and stratiform rain/snow.
June 25, 2025 at 12:39 AM
2/n: Now lets look at the buoy weather station data over the center of the lake, first the wind speed, which shows relatively calm winds during the morning, then a sudden wind ramp followed by ~1.5 hrs of strong winds as high as 20 m/s (~44 mph). [the time stamps on these plots are wrong...]
June 25, 2025 at 12:39 AM
It’s so frustrating to have had this beautiful organic way of accessing primary source intel… lost now to ego of a billionaire…
June 17, 2025 at 4:10 AM
That’s a very windy spot!
June 12, 2025 at 12:51 AM