. @asher.wolfste.in What I mean is: among those of us who care about you, and recognize the injustice done to you by the original 2 smearers, don’t know or care who are Annie and those other randos, and we’re right not to care who are Annie and those other randos.

. @asher.wolfste.in No matter how much Kiwi Farms people smear you, it would be extremely difficult —they’d need a miracle — for Kiwi Farms not to be more stigmatized than you. People outside those small bubbles still trust you over Kiwi Farms.

. @asher.wolfste.in And everyone outside these bubbles either doesn’t know what Kiwi Farms is, or regards it as the *National Enquirer* of the World Wide Web. That’s how stigmatized Kiwi Farms is.

. @asher.wolfste.in And even the influence of the original 2 smearers is tiny. The only big group Liana once influenced is Gamergate people, and even most of them lost interest in her. Her circle is the bunch who stayed with her.

. @asher.wolfste.in This Annie person and those other randos come off as a distraction at the most.

. @asher.wolfste.in I think a tiny number of people outside of those two circles might care about the smears against you from the original 2 people. But I would be surprised if anyone at all outside of Liana’s circle and Kiwi Farms cares what this Annie person and those other randos say about you.

I think Liana’s circle and Kiwi Farms people are like MAGA: their minds can’t be changed. They are unreachable, and best avoided as much as possible.

. @asher.wolfste.in I also fear there comes a point where more and more verbal elaboration on the smears doesn’t add, for active-minded readers, further understanding. I think you could do a relatively short rebuttal of the smears satisfying all active-minded people following this, ending it.

. @asher.wolfste.in If these other people smearing you are doing so because they follow the lead of the first 2, then I think that when it comes to disproving the smears, everything you say would be easier for an active-minded person to follow if you stuck to talking only/mostly about the first 2.

When it comes to clearing your name against smears, I’m under the impression there’s a lot of mission creep. I know who are the first 2 people to spread smears, but it’s confusing as you’re talking about these other people I haven’t heard of. Are they smearing you due to the first 2 people?

Because those men are told they are on the advantaged, privileged side of a power imbalance? 😮

Do you mean Mr. X being told “You were born into privileges of categories I don’t fall into, making your attempt at persuasion a predatory one,” and that card usually being enough to intimidate Mr. X into submission? 😮

More details here. The section was made by a subsidiary of magazine giant Hearst. Chicago Sun-Times told me it is considering canceling this relationship and that no one from the newspaper read the insert before it was printed:

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I updated this to note that there are other clearly AI-generated parts in the Heat Index section, which seemed pretty clear when I first went through it but I wanted to spot check a few things before including them. Shout out to @joshuajfriedman.com, who has been documenting some of them