Ed F Types
@edfinnerty.bsky.social
I'm a Byliner. No clearly identified human author/artist, no sale, no read, no view, no click. Pretty sure my meager follower count is inflated by bots and scammers. I do not maintain my posting history.
John Wayne Gacy Letters Reveal a Lost Suburban Midwest
November 16, 2025 at 7:54 PM
John Wayne Gacy Letters Reveal a Lost Suburban Midwest
Queue Peter Sagal pointing out how this is fine, and how we should all continue to hallow the New York Times because he has a couple of friends who write for them still, and their work is really good, so that's that. No, they can't work someplace with ethics. Why would you even ask that?
November 16, 2025 at 2:07 PM
Queue Peter Sagal pointing out how this is fine, and how we should all continue to hallow the New York Times because he has a couple of friends who write for them still, and their work is really good, so that's that. No, they can't work someplace with ethics. Why would you even ask that?
It's also a dubious argument.
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
It's also a dubious argument.
More like goatse'd with the sauce. Amirite?
November 16, 2025 at 12:39 PM
More like goatse'd with the sauce. Amirite?
Smart money is on the new one being even more unrepentantly evil.
November 16, 2025 at 1:45 AM
Smart money is on the new one being even more unrepentantly evil.
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At some point a random cybersecurity founder just shows up in the comments and butts in with the most obviously ChatGPT generated argument I've ever seen. Apparently the dude just saw the discussion and was like "hold up, I think my plagiarism toaster could provide some valuable insight here". 2/2
November 15, 2025 at 10:30 PM
At some point a random cybersecurity founder just shows up in the comments and butts in with the most obviously ChatGPT generated argument I've ever seen. Apparently the dude just saw the discussion and was like "hold up, I think my plagiarism toaster could provide some valuable insight here". 2/2
But right now, in the reality we face, the destruction of water resources and the massive amping up of climate change feel like compelling real time considerations, yes.
November 15, 2025 at 7:04 PM
But right now, in the reality we face, the destruction of water resources and the massive amping up of climate change feel like compelling real time considerations, yes.
Do I have to have a single main point? The resource use is epic, and any remediation of it purely theoretical. But it also got built with de facto slave labor RLHF, stolen work, and so on. And it's flooding the world with slop.
November 15, 2025 at 7:04 PM
Do I have to have a single main point? The resource use is epic, and any remediation of it purely theoretical. But it also got built with de facto slave labor RLHF, stolen work, and so on. And it's flooding the world with slop.
How it gets there matters. So yes. What it's doing matters as well, as you note in other posts, so still yes.
November 15, 2025 at 6:56 PM
How it gets there matters. So yes. What it's doing matters as well, as you note in other posts, so still yes.
And not a single, solitary person still working there cares at all.
November 15, 2025 at 6:56 PM
And not a single, solitary person still working there cares at all.
I don't use it because it's easy, because candidly, among technologists, I primarily encounter people who struggle to so much as pretend to care at all about any of it. Most quickly rush to false equivalence and "if nothing is perfect, then nothing has to be scrutinized" conclusions.
November 15, 2025 at 6:40 PM
I don't use it because it's easy, because candidly, among technologists, I primarily encounter people who struggle to so much as pretend to care at all about any of it. Most quickly rush to false equivalence and "if nothing is perfect, then nothing has to be scrutinized" conclusions.
Expensive is a rather gentle way of putting it, IMO.
November 15, 2025 at 6:37 PM
Expensive is a rather gentle way of putting it, IMO.
I appreciate the good faith discussion, rare in this context. I don't think I'm offering an easy choice. I'm offering a difficult principle that, like any principle, probably cannot cover every circumstance. But that reality doesn't invalidate principles.
November 15, 2025 at 4:30 PM
I appreciate the good faith discussion, rare in this context. I don't think I'm offering an easy choice. I'm offering a difficult principle that, like any principle, probably cannot cover every circumstance. But that reality doesn't invalidate principles.
And we're never going to catch up and stanch the bleeding until we apply the brakes - hell, even *tap* them - on something relatively new and distinctively destructive before it is completely lodged in the shrugged off category.
November 15, 2025 at 4:22 PM
And we're never going to catch up and stanch the bleeding until we apply the brakes - hell, even *tap* them - on something relatively new and distinctively destructive before it is completely lodged in the shrugged off category.
If we continue to proceed by looking for an excuse, we will never, ever stop finding one. It's the crisis of the industrial and post-industrial age.
November 15, 2025 at 4:22 PM
If we continue to proceed by looking for an excuse, we will never, ever stop finding one. It's the crisis of the industrial and post-industrial age.
That's not pragmatism. It's unbounded relativism driven by convenience. We all can do better. We all should endeavor to try. It's distinctive and significant when a circumstance is relatively new. We have an easy choice here, and we can see the cost in real time. That makes the choice significant.
November 15, 2025 at 4:17 PM
That's not pragmatism. It's unbounded relativism driven by convenience. We all can do better. We all should endeavor to try. It's distinctive and significant when a circumstance is relatively new. We have an easy choice here, and we can see the cost in real time. That makes the choice significant.
Use of a product is factually,. mechanically, perpetuation of and material support of that chain. The endorsement is a side issue.
November 15, 2025 at 4:15 PM
Use of a product is factually,. mechanically, perpetuation of and material support of that chain. The endorsement is a side issue.
Yes, but it's a common tactic in part because it's lazy. That can be used to invalidate any and all ethics. Nothing that can be stated in one post here is going to be rigorous. But the premise holds.
November 15, 2025 at 4:14 PM
Yes, but it's a common tactic in part because it's lazy. That can be used to invalidate any and all ethics. Nothing that can be stated in one post here is going to be rigorous. But the premise holds.
Life is complicated. But the pull of convenience has already led to mass engagement in so much destruction. Efforts to draw lines need not be perfect to be valid as general principles, and they need not be contingent on going back and cleaning up every prior mess first.
November 15, 2025 at 3:55 PM
Life is complicated. But the pull of convenience has already led to mass engagement in so much destruction. Efforts to draw lines need not be perfect to be valid as general principles, and they need not be contingent on going back and cleaning up every prior mess first.
Your case may well be an exception. That's tangential to the reality. Widespread use of those models is horrific in its impacts.
November 15, 2025 at 3:50 PM
Your case may well be an exception. That's tangential to the reality. Widespread use of those models is horrific in its impacts.
And here we go. Anyone elucidates a principled stance, and they are easily dismissed by demanding they satisfy every other principled stance.
My handle is a reference to Ed Finnerty from Player Piano. Definitely not a computer hype guy.
My handle is a reference to Ed Finnerty from Player Piano. Definitely not a computer hype guy.
November 15, 2025 at 3:50 PM
And here we go. Anyone elucidates a principled stance, and they are easily dismissed by demanding they satisfy every other principled stance.
My handle is a reference to Ed Finnerty from Player Piano. Definitely not a computer hype guy.
My handle is a reference to Ed Finnerty from Player Piano. Definitely not a computer hype guy.
To contend this only could have been done by an LLM is, to me, to engage in exactly the hype that you decried a few posts back.
November 15, 2025 at 3:41 PM
To contend this only could have been done by an LLM is, to me, to engage in exactly the hype that you decried a few posts back.
I don't think you're lying. I'm suggesting it is implausible that a plain vanilla Internet average composition from ChatGPT is the secret sauce to an IEP that couldn't be arrived at another way that isn't soaked in misery and destruction. Like, maybe just a really good writer you know.
November 15, 2025 at 3:41 PM
I don't think you're lying. I'm suggesting it is implausible that a plain vanilla Internet average composition from ChatGPT is the secret sauce to an IEP that couldn't be arrived at another way that isn't soaked in misery and destruction. Like, maybe just a really good writer you know.
Me too! First, a little Kant: consider that the one dollar of electricity gets applied by all for as many uses cases as they like. The use itself is the ethical issue.
November 15, 2025 at 3:41 PM
Me too! First, a little Kant: consider that the one dollar of electricity gets applied by all for as many uses cases as they like. The use itself is the ethical issue.
Yes, but it should be a lot more than you. And when something as egregious as the Nuzzi article (among many other examples) drops, it should be a massive unified chorus.
November 15, 2025 at 3:34 PM
Yes, but it should be a lot more than you. And when something as egregious as the Nuzzi article (among many other examples) drops, it should be a massive unified chorus.