Kdin Jenzen 🏳️⚧️🐺
@kdinjenzenvo.com
🏳️⚧️ #Trans Gal #VO
Writer, Video Editor, #VTuber | Reppamon #Digimon | Lhin #UnicornOverlord | Queen Metalia #ToonamiAbridged | Additional Voices in #OnePiece & More!
VO: www.kdinjenzenvo.com
Agent: sfrishman@CESDTalent.com
Twitch: www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
Writer, Video Editor, #VTuber | Reppamon #Digimon | Lhin #UnicornOverlord | Queen Metalia #ToonamiAbridged | Additional Voices in #OnePiece & More!
VO: www.kdinjenzenvo.com
Agent: sfrishman@CESDTalent.com
Twitch: www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
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Kdin Jenzen 🏳️⚧️🐺
@kdinjenzenvo.com
· Mar 9
Hello Bsky-ers!
I'm Kdin Jenzen a trans woman VA, casting director, and voice over director living in Los Angeles (remote capable) & ALWAYS looking for more voice over work!
You can find my reels, resume, & contact information on my website: kdinjenzenvo.com
#VoiceOver #VoiceActor #VO #VA
I'm Kdin Jenzen a trans woman VA, casting director, and voice over director living in Los Angeles (remote capable) & ALWAYS looking for more voice over work!
You can find my reels, resume, & contact information on my website: kdinjenzenvo.com
#VoiceOver #VoiceActor #VO #VA
It's Awoobies VS Ganondorf time! Let's finish up Wind Waker!
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/s8i-j1_...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
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www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
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#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
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February 9, 2026 at 1:01 AM
It's Awoobies VS Ganondorf time! Let's finish up Wind Waker!
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/s8i-j1_...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/s8i-j1_...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
Reposted by Kdin Jenzen 🏳️⚧️🐺
I feel like people respond better to general life advice when it is provided in meme form, so here's a very important message for y'all.
October 26, 2025 at 5:23 AM
I feel like people respond better to general life advice when it is provided in meme form, so here's a very important message for y'all.
Someone said I was a “shoddy anti-ai shill” and I cannot tell you how hilarious that is.
They essentially said being anti-ai is not worth it and we should just accept that it’s here forever.
Fam I assure you my level of hate toward Gen Ai - if turned into energy - would burn brighter than the sun.
They essentially said being anti-ai is not worth it and we should just accept that it’s here forever.
Fam I assure you my level of hate toward Gen Ai - if turned into energy - would burn brighter than the sun.
February 8, 2026 at 4:59 PM
Someone said I was a “shoddy anti-ai shill” and I cannot tell you how hilarious that is.
They essentially said being anti-ai is not worth it and we should just accept that it’s here forever.
Fam I assure you my level of hate toward Gen Ai - if turned into energy - would burn brighter than the sun.
They essentially said being anti-ai is not worth it and we should just accept that it’s here forever.
Fam I assure you my level of hate toward Gen Ai - if turned into energy - would burn brighter than the sun.
Proof that Digimon and Yu-Gi-Oh are essentially the same thing.
February 8, 2026 at 2:01 AM
Proof that Digimon and Yu-Gi-Oh are essentially the same thing.
I feel like slapping the shit out of every dickhead complaining about Kermit’s “new” voice.
Matt Vogel has been Kermit for 10 years, and with The Jim Henson Company/Sesame Street for ~30 Years~.
It ain’t just “voice”, puppeteering is also a major artistic skill.
Dude is great at what he does.
Matt Vogel has been Kermit for 10 years, and with The Jim Henson Company/Sesame Street for ~30 Years~.
It ain’t just “voice”, puppeteering is also a major artistic skill.
Dude is great at what he does.
February 7, 2026 at 11:44 PM
I feel like slapping the shit out of every dickhead complaining about Kermit’s “new” voice.
Matt Vogel has been Kermit for 10 years, and with The Jim Henson Company/Sesame Street for ~30 Years~.
It ain’t just “voice”, puppeteering is also a major artistic skill.
Dude is great at what he does.
Matt Vogel has been Kermit for 10 years, and with The Jim Henson Company/Sesame Street for ~30 Years~.
It ain’t just “voice”, puppeteering is also a major artistic skill.
Dude is great at what he does.
My partner has informed me of the "Infinity Pencil"
And now I've been screaming this all morning:
And now I've been screaming this all morning:
February 7, 2026 at 5:27 PM
My partner has informed me of the "Infinity Pencil"
And now I've been screaming this all morning:
And now I've been screaming this all morning:
Reposted by Kdin Jenzen 🏳️⚧️🐺
I'm giving away TEN Collector Booster Boxes of Lorwyn Eclipsed!
I'm giving TEN PEOPLE each one box of Collector Boosters from Lorwyn as a thank you for donating to Trans Lifeline!
Just donate in multiples of $4.00 to @translifeline.org until Feb 7 at 10am PST!
Donate--> give.translifeline.org/tcc
I'm giving TEN PEOPLE each one box of Collector Boosters from Lorwyn as a thank you for donating to Trans Lifeline!
Just donate in multiples of $4.00 to @translifeline.org until Feb 7 at 10am PST!
Donate--> give.translifeline.org/tcc
February 4, 2026 at 5:00 PM
I'm giving away TEN Collector Booster Boxes of Lorwyn Eclipsed!
I'm giving TEN PEOPLE each one box of Collector Boosters from Lorwyn as a thank you for donating to Trans Lifeline!
Just donate in multiples of $4.00 to @translifeline.org until Feb 7 at 10am PST!
Donate--> give.translifeline.org/tcc
I'm giving TEN PEOPLE each one box of Collector Boosters from Lorwyn as a thank you for donating to Trans Lifeline!
Just donate in multiples of $4.00 to @translifeline.org until Feb 7 at 10am PST!
Donate--> give.translifeline.org/tcc
We're nearing the end of Wind Waker! Let's find those Triforce Pieces!
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/wjUAS5H...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/wjUAS5H...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
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February 7, 2026 at 1:13 AM
We're nearing the end of Wind Waker! Let's find those Triforce Pieces!
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/wjUAS5H...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/wjUAS5H...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
Reposted by Kdin Jenzen 🏳️⚧️🐺
ATTENTION VOICE ACTORS!
Like we announced at #FC2026, there is now an open casting call for major and supporting voice roles in Builds 1 and 2 of Rock E Rumble!
To submit an audition, just fill out this form: forms.gle/g47y3KAfqrHR...
#voiceacting #indie #gamedev #rock_e_rumble
Like we announced at #FC2026, there is now an open casting call for major and supporting voice roles in Builds 1 and 2 of Rock E Rumble!
To submit an audition, just fill out this form: forms.gle/g47y3KAfqrHR...
#voiceacting #indie #gamedev #rock_e_rumble
February 1, 2026 at 6:04 AM
ATTENTION VOICE ACTORS!
Like we announced at #FC2026, there is now an open casting call for major and supporting voice roles in Builds 1 and 2 of Rock E Rumble!
To submit an audition, just fill out this form: forms.gle/g47y3KAfqrHR...
#voiceacting #indie #gamedev #rock_e_rumble
Like we announced at #FC2026, there is now an open casting call for major and supporting voice roles in Builds 1 and 2 of Rock E Rumble!
To submit an audition, just fill out this form: forms.gle/g47y3KAfqrHR...
#voiceacting #indie #gamedev #rock_e_rumble
Does anyone think that most of the "cozy game" genre is actually anxiety inducing?
Everyone has a schedule. Did you miss their schedule? They don't like you now.
You didn't water your crops yesterday? Dead now.
You ignored talking to one person during the town celebration. They moved out.
Everyone has a schedule. Did you miss their schedule? They don't like you now.
You didn't water your crops yesterday? Dead now.
You ignored talking to one person during the town celebration. They moved out.
February 5, 2026 at 6:51 PM
Does anyone think that most of the "cozy game" genre is actually anxiety inducing?
Everyone has a schedule. Did you miss their schedule? They don't like you now.
You didn't water your crops yesterday? Dead now.
You ignored talking to one person during the town celebration. They moved out.
Everyone has a schedule. Did you miss their schedule? They don't like you now.
You didn't water your crops yesterday? Dead now.
You ignored talking to one person during the town celebration. They moved out.
In 1998 you could get 3 booster boxes of Pokemon TCG for $225.
In 2026 you can get 1 booster box xof Pokemon TCG for $240.
In 2026 you can get 1 booster box xof Pokemon TCG for $240.
February 5, 2026 at 1:02 AM
In 1998 you could get 3 booster boxes of Pokemon TCG for $225.
In 2026 you can get 1 booster box xof Pokemon TCG for $240.
In 2026 you can get 1 booster box xof Pokemon TCG for $240.
Did you know this game is set in the year 2035?
Streaming some Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow now!
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/ZVU2SED...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
Streaming some Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow now!
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/ZVU2SED...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
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February 4, 2026 at 1:20 AM
Did you know this game is set in the year 2035?
Streaming some Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow now!
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/ZVU2SED...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
Streaming some Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow now!
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/ZVU2SED...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
The patent was applied for back in 2024. Right at the time of the SAG-AFTRA video game strike. And it was granted to them just now.
I cannot stress how much this is just another way to take away the ability to create art from artists.
We don't even get paid that much anyway!
I cannot stress how much this is just another way to take away the ability to create art from artists.
We don't even get paid that much anyway!
Sony has patented the idea of AI-generated podcasts hosted by characters from its games.
The idea would see players getting their own bespoke podcasts on their console, telling them what's new, hosted by the characters of the games they've been playing.
www.videogameschronicle.com/news/sony-pa...
The idea would see players getting their own bespoke podcasts on their console, telling them what's new, hosted by the characters of the games they've been playing.
www.videogameschronicle.com/news/sony-pa...
Sony patents AI-generated podcasts voiced by characters from its games | VGC
Players would get their own personalised podcasts on their consoles telling them what’s new…
www.videogameschronicle.com
February 3, 2026 at 7:16 PM
The patent was applied for back in 2024. Right at the time of the SAG-AFTRA video game strike. And it was granted to them just now.
I cannot stress how much this is just another way to take away the ability to create art from artists.
We don't even get paid that much anyway!
I cannot stress how much this is just another way to take away the ability to create art from artists.
We don't even get paid that much anyway!
Never mind the jobs you had, tell me five classes you took in college:
1. History of Rock & Roll (Weird Al's drummer was my prof)
2. Finite Mathematics
3. Collaborative Theatre and Performance
4. Managerial Accounting
5. Introduction to Teaching Methodologies
1. History of Rock & Roll (Weird Al's drummer was my prof)
2. Finite Mathematics
3. Collaborative Theatre and Performance
4. Managerial Accounting
5. Introduction to Teaching Methodologies
Never mind the jobs you had, tell me five classes you took in college:
1. Electrical Theatre (recording studio and stage lighting)
2. 17th Theatre
3. Playwriting
4. Site Specific Theatre
5. Ancient Greek Theatre
1. Electrical Theatre (recording studio and stage lighting)
2. 17th Theatre
3. Playwriting
4. Site Specific Theatre
5. Ancient Greek Theatre
Never mind the jobs you had, tell me five classes you took in college:
1. Music Theory and Aural Skills
2. Children's Literature
3. Introduction to Astronomy
4. 17th Century Colonial Narratives
5. Writing Process and Practice
1. Music Theory and Aural Skills
2. Children's Literature
3. Introduction to Astronomy
4. 17th Century Colonial Narratives
5. Writing Process and Practice
February 2, 2026 at 6:22 PM
Never mind the jobs you had, tell me five classes you took in college:
1. History of Rock & Roll (Weird Al's drummer was my prof)
2. Finite Mathematics
3. Collaborative Theatre and Performance
4. Managerial Accounting
5. Introduction to Teaching Methodologies
1. History of Rock & Roll (Weird Al's drummer was my prof)
2. Finite Mathematics
3. Collaborative Theatre and Performance
4. Managerial Accounting
5. Introduction to Teaching Methodologies
TRANS WOMEN ONLY!
If you grew up loving the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, which of the four was your favorite?
If you grew up loving the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, which of the four was your favorite?
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February 1, 2026 at 4:09 AM
TRANS WOMEN ONLY!
If you grew up loving the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, which of the four was your favorite?
If you grew up loving the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, which of the four was your favorite?
I had to make a call today and immediately got the "robot customer service" because that's all we ever get now.
The robot opened up with "We need your information for a survey so if you-" and I responded:
"IF YOU MAKE ME TAKE A SURVEY I WILL SCREAM!"
and then it immediately connect me to human.
The robot opened up with "We need your information for a survey so if you-" and I responded:
"IF YOU MAKE ME TAKE A SURVEY I WILL SCREAM!"
and then it immediately connect me to human.
February 1, 2026 at 12:12 AM
I had to make a call today and immediately got the "robot customer service" because that's all we ever get now.
The robot opened up with "We need your information for a survey so if you-" and I responded:
"IF YOU MAKE ME TAKE A SURVEY I WILL SCREAM!"
and then it immediately connect me to human.
The robot opened up with "We need your information for a survey so if you-" and I responded:
"IF YOU MAKE ME TAKE A SURVEY I WILL SCREAM!"
and then it immediately connect me to human.
Wind Waker? I HARDLY KNOW 'ER! :D
Our LoZ: Wind Waker adventures continue now!
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/7XCdUgj...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
Our LoZ: Wind Waker adventures continue now!
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/7XCdUgj...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
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January 31, 2026 at 1:09 AM
Wind Waker? I HARDLY KNOW 'ER! :D
Our LoZ: Wind Waker adventures continue now!
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/7XCdUgj...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
Our LoZ: Wind Waker adventures continue now!
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/7XCdUgj...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
Reposted by Kdin Jenzen 🏳️⚧️🐺
It has been a ROUGH week for me, and we're also coming up short on rent/bills this month.
So if ya wanna (can can) help a girl out, I'd really appreciate it. <3
PayPal: Paypal.me/kdinj
CashApp: #$KDINJ
Kofi: ko-fi.com/kdinjenzen
So if ya wanna (can can) help a girl out, I'd really appreciate it. <3
PayPal: Paypal.me/kdinj
CashApp: #$KDINJ
Kofi: ko-fi.com/kdinjenzen
a black and white drawing of a girl with the word by on the bottom left
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January 29, 2026 at 10:04 PM
It has been a ROUGH week for me, and we're also coming up short on rent/bills this month.
So if ya wanna (can can) help a girl out, I'd really appreciate it. <3
PayPal: Paypal.me/kdinj
CashApp: #$KDINJ
Kofi: ko-fi.com/kdinjenzen
So if ya wanna (can can) help a girl out, I'd really appreciate it. <3
PayPal: Paypal.me/kdinj
CashApp: #$KDINJ
Kofi: ko-fi.com/kdinjenzen
Come hell or high water... we're FINISHING THIS!
It's time to wrap up Resident Evil Revelations!
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/sOzVe6R...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
It's time to wrap up Resident Evil Revelations!
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/sOzVe6R...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
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January 30, 2026 at 1:10 AM
Come hell or high water... we're FINISHING THIS!
It's time to wrap up Resident Evil Revelations!
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/sOzVe6R...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
It's time to wrap up Resident Evil Revelations!
🔴 Stream is LIVE RIGHT NOW! 🔴
www.twitch.tv/kdinjenzen
youtube.com/live/sOzVe6R...
#furry #vtuber #envtuber #voiceactor #furryvtuber #transvtuber #transwoman #furrylive
It has been a ROUGH week for me, and we're also coming up short on rent/bills this month.
So if ya wanna (can can) help a girl out, I'd really appreciate it. <3
PayPal: Paypal.me/kdinj
CashApp: #$KDINJ
Kofi: ko-fi.com/kdinjenzen
So if ya wanna (can can) help a girl out, I'd really appreciate it. <3
PayPal: Paypal.me/kdinj
CashApp: #$KDINJ
Kofi: ko-fi.com/kdinjenzen
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media.tenor.com
January 29, 2026 at 10:04 PM
It has been a ROUGH week for me, and we're also coming up short on rent/bills this month.
So if ya wanna (can can) help a girl out, I'd really appreciate it. <3
PayPal: Paypal.me/kdinj
CashApp: #$KDINJ
Kofi: ko-fi.com/kdinjenzen
So if ya wanna (can can) help a girl out, I'd really appreciate it. <3
PayPal: Paypal.me/kdinj
CashApp: #$KDINJ
Kofi: ko-fi.com/kdinjenzen
Lol I called this out the moment the changing of the guard happened in my discord group, I smelled blood in the water and knew some nasty slop was on the way
January 28, 2026 at 6:34 PM
Lol I called this out the moment the changing of the guard happened in my discord group, I smelled blood in the water and knew some nasty slop was on the way
Reposted by Kdin Jenzen 🏳️⚧️🐺
Thanks! Thanks so much! Thanks for reaching out! Can't wait to connect! Can't wait to hear more! Looking forward to our conversation! Looking forward to hearing from you! Let me know! Let me know if this works for you! Let me know if this works for your schedule! Let me know when you're available!
November 24, 2025 at 10:03 PM
Thanks! Thanks so much! Thanks for reaching out! Can't wait to connect! Can't wait to hear more! Looking forward to our conversation! Looking forward to hearing from you! Let me know! Let me know if this works for you! Let me know if this works for your schedule! Let me know when you're available!
Reposted by Kdin Jenzen 🏳️⚧️🐺
This is so important because A) she did it in response to Benedict Wong, a far more prominent actor, saying he's listening to the audiobooks a lot and B) did it unprompted, she specifically stopped the fluff interview to draw the comparison to the themes of their film and support trans people.
You’ve got to love how actress Kelly Marie Tran, one of the most harassed people ever to be on the internet, still leapt up to defend trans people in a recent interview. No one would blame her for keeping her head down and shutting up forever but she will NOT and I admire her for it ⭐
Star Wars actor says ‘trans rights are human rights’ when asked about Harry Potter
Kelly Marie Tran said ‘trans rights are human rights’ when the topic of JK Rowling's Harry Potter series was mentioned in an interview.
www.thepinknews.com
January 27, 2026 at 5:33 AM
This is so important because A) she did it in response to Benedict Wong, a far more prominent actor, saying he's listening to the audiobooks a lot and B) did it unprompted, she specifically stopped the fluff interview to draw the comparison to the themes of their film and support trans people.
no surprise there~
also the most misunderstood class and alignments -overall- by a country mile
also the most misunderstood class and alignments -overall- by a country mile
January 27, 2026 at 12:49 AM
no surprise there~
also the most misunderstood class and alignments -overall- by a country mile
also the most misunderstood class and alignments -overall- by a country mile
The fact that lurkers are no longer included in Twitch Viewer Count is absolutely bonkers to me.
Was watching another streamer and their concurrents went from 70-ish to OVER 100 when they started a giveaway which required typing a command in chat.
This continues to be SUCH a stream killer. :/
Was watching another streamer and their concurrents went from 70-ish to OVER 100 when they started a giveaway which required typing a command in chat.
This continues to be SUCH a stream killer. :/
January 25, 2026 at 6:04 PM
The fact that lurkers are no longer included in Twitch Viewer Count is absolutely bonkers to me.
Was watching another streamer and their concurrents went from 70-ish to OVER 100 when they started a giveaway which required typing a command in chat.
This continues to be SUCH a stream killer. :/
Was watching another streamer and their concurrents went from 70-ish to OVER 100 when they started a giveaway which required typing a command in chat.
This continues to be SUCH a stream killer. :/