Tony Wilson
@wilsontony.bsky.social
Employment, labour markets and social inclusion. Personal views etc.
... the UK used to contribute to and benefit from.
I think though it's limited to EEA members only though (EU plus Norway, Liechtenstein, Iceland)
ec.europa.eu/social/main....
I think though it's limited to EEA members only though (EU plus Norway, Liechtenstein, Iceland)
ec.europa.eu/social/main....
European Network of Public Employment Services
Public employment services Summary
ec.europa.eu
October 9, 2024 at 1:15 PM
... the UK used to contribute to and benefit from.
I think though it's limited to EEA members only though (EU plus Norway, Liechtenstein, Iceland)
ec.europa.eu/social/main....
I think though it's limited to EEA members only though (EU plus Norway, Liechtenstein, Iceland)
ec.europa.eu/social/main....
Thank you and I agree!! Looking forward to never writing another briefing on the labour market ever again.
October 2, 2024 at 8:04 PM
Thank you and I agree!! Looking forward to never writing another briefing on the labour market ever again.
Thanks Patrick, and yep I will tell you all about it!
October 2, 2024 at 8:03 PM
Thanks Patrick, and yep I will tell you all about it!
Thanks Ben that's kind of you to say. Am really looking forward to it and it will be great to stay in touch on the other side...
October 2, 2024 at 8:03 PM
Thanks Ben that's kind of you to say. Am really looking forward to it and it will be great to stay in touch on the other side...
Thanks Paul, plenty of clothes in the wardrobe still at IES though!
October 2, 2024 at 8:02 PM
Thanks Paul, plenty of clothes in the wardrobe still at IES though!
Thanks Ashwin that's really kind of you to say, looking forward to it!
October 2, 2024 at 8:01 PM
Thanks Ashwin that's really kind of you to say, looking forward to it!
Ha! Well I wouldn't be here now without him offering me a job in 2005 and lots of advice since...
October 2, 2024 at 8:01 PM
Ha! Well I wouldn't be here now without him offering me a job in 2005 and lots of advice since...
Thanks Tony that's kind of you to say. Looking forward to it.
October 2, 2024 at 7:59 PM
Thanks Tony that's kind of you to say. Looking forward to it.
Thanks Calum! IES will be great without me, onwards and upwards for the team...
October 2, 2024 at 7:59 PM
Thanks Calum! IES will be great without me, onwards and upwards for the team...
Thanks Anna, that's really kind of you to say
October 2, 2024 at 7:57 PM
Thanks Anna, that's really kind of you to say
Thanks Jill! Hope all's well with you,
October 2, 2024 at 7:57 PM
Thanks Jill! Hope all's well with you,
But my understanding is that Werkpleinen still exist as a pretty comprehensive network (at least cf. to UK) with co-located services and relatively open access. So a little more nuanced/ multi-level than CSJ implies
Also obvs big difference with UK is we don't have insurance/ assistance divide!
Also obvs big difference with UK is we don't have insurance/ assistance divide!
September 23, 2024 at 11:22 AM
But my understanding is that Werkpleinen still exist as a pretty comprehensive network (at least cf. to UK) with co-located services and relatively open access. So a little more nuanced/ multi-level than CSJ implies
Also obvs big difference with UK is we don't have insurance/ assistance divide!
Also obvs big difference with UK is we don't have insurance/ assistance divide!
Social insurance is national through the UWV (Employee Insurance Agency).
They employ advisers and commission services, and co-manage local jobcentres ('werkpleinen') with councils.
Unlike UK they use a lot of segmentation/ triage, but like UK it's increasingly online.
www.werk.nl/werkzoekende...
They employ advisers and commission services, and co-manage local jobcentres ('werkpleinen') with councils.
Unlike UK they use a lot of segmentation/ triage, but like UK it's increasingly online.
www.werk.nl/werkzoekende...
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September 23, 2024 at 11:20 AM
Social insurance is national through the UWV (Employee Insurance Agency).
They employ advisers and commission services, and co-manage local jobcentres ('werkpleinen') with councils.
Unlike UK they use a lot of segmentation/ triage, but like UK it's increasingly online.
www.werk.nl/werkzoekende...
They employ advisers and commission services, and co-manage local jobcentres ('werkpleinen') with councils.
Unlike UK they use a lot of segmentation/ triage, but like UK it's increasingly online.
www.werk.nl/werkzoekende...
Yep although I think it depends how you do it, I don't think national govt has a monopoly on bureaucratic contracting!
September 23, 2024 at 10:37 AM
Yep although I think it depends how you do it, I don't think national govt has a monopoly on bureaucratic contracting!
Good question!
I'm sure it would still be possible, as those areas still have residents with underlying entitlements to benefits, employment, skills support etc (and national/ local govt responsibilities) - but must admit I'm not close enough to detail of those reforms.
I'm sure it would still be possible, as those areas still have residents with underlying entitlements to benefits, employment, skills support etc (and national/ local govt responsibilities) - but must admit I'm not close enough to detail of those reforms.
September 23, 2024 at 9:58 AM
Good question!
I'm sure it would still be possible, as those areas still have residents with underlying entitlements to benefits, employment, skills support etc (and national/ local govt responsibilities) - but must admit I'm not close enough to detail of those reforms.
I'm sure it would still be possible, as those areas still have residents with underlying entitlements to benefits, employment, skills support etc (and national/ local govt responsibilities) - but must admit I'm not close enough to detail of those reforms.
... again shows why you can't just lift and shift - would be very difficult (if not impossible) to devolve AEB in England to individual local authorities in my view. But of course you could carve out funding for retraining etc and devolve that so local areas can commission (rather than grant fund).
September 23, 2024 at 9:57 AM
... again shows why you can't just lift and shift - would be very difficult (if not impossible) to devolve AEB in England to individual local authorities in my view. But of course you could carve out funding for retraining etc and devolve that so local areas can commission (rather than grant fund).
No I don't! But just googling, this seems to set out how Dutch funding for schools and colleges works.
eurydice.eacea.ec.europa.eu/national-edu...
My understanding of the 'skills' bit of employment devo though is that it is specifically around retraining etc - not full equivalent of AEB. Which...
eurydice.eacea.ec.europa.eu/national-edu...
My understanding of the 'skills' bit of employment devo though is that it is specifically around retraining etc - not full equivalent of AEB. Which...
Funding in education
eurydice.eacea.ec.europa.eu
September 23, 2024 at 9:56 AM
No I don't! But just googling, this seems to set out how Dutch funding for schools and colleges works.
eurydice.eacea.ec.europa.eu/national-edu...
My understanding of the 'skills' bit of employment devo though is that it is specifically around retraining etc - not full equivalent of AEB. Which...
eurydice.eacea.ec.europa.eu/national-edu...
My understanding of the 'skills' bit of employment devo though is that it is specifically around retraining etc - not full equivalent of AEB. Which...
And Dan's paper was invaluable in the paper I wrote in 2017 for LGA, arguing for much more devo based on what has worked in Netherlands.
Which includes view one-stop integration between the national employment service and local provision (Work Squares) pdf
learningandwork.org.uk/wp-content/u...
Which includes view one-stop integration between the national employment service and local provision (Work Squares) pdf
learningandwork.org.uk/wp-content/u...
learningandwork.org.uk
September 23, 2024 at 9:53 AM
And Dan's paper was invaluable in the paper I wrote in 2017 for LGA, arguing for much more devo based on what has worked in Netherlands.
Which includes view one-stop integration between the national employment service and local provision (Work Squares) pdf
learningandwork.org.uk/wp-content/u...
Which includes view one-stop integration between the national employment service and local provision (Work Squares) pdf
learningandwork.org.uk/wp-content/u...
Also I would recommend this 2016 paper by Dan Finn (pdf) which runs thru various lessons from overseas.
Ch 3 covers Dutch approach/ history on social insurance AND social assistance. Lots we can learn from, but not without some criticism too (e.g. screengrab below) core.ac.uk/download/pdf...
Ch 3 covers Dutch approach/ history on social insurance AND social assistance. Lots we can learn from, but not without some criticism too (e.g. screengrab below) core.ac.uk/download/pdf...
September 23, 2024 at 9:51 AM
Also I would recommend this 2016 paper by Dan Finn (pdf) which runs thru various lessons from overseas.
Ch 3 covers Dutch approach/ history on social insurance AND social assistance. Lots we can learn from, but not without some criticism too (e.g. screengrab below) core.ac.uk/download/pdf...
Ch 3 covers Dutch approach/ history on social insurance AND social assistance. Lots we can learn from, but not without some criticism too (e.g. screengrab below) core.ac.uk/download/pdf...