I get the political urgency for a reboot of the Democratic brand for more media-savvy leadership. But a lot is built around their disastrous defeat in the 2024 elections. There is a danger of generalizing about an anomalous post-covid anti-incumbency year when the defeat was actually fairly narrow.

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You’re just repeating what I told you.

And you need to understand basic networking: it doesn’t matter if Threema’s servers are cloud or not, they still have to interact with infrastructure that is in order to pass messages.

Apple doesn’t force the backup. They can exclude their app from the backup if they choose to, just as signal does.

And WhatsApp once swore they’d never put ads in the app.

That’s what they say now. They can just as well change their mind tomorrow.

It doesn’t “give” the data anymore than threema does. Your claim has no technical basis and is contradicted by the links you provide, which show the Threema apps back up to the cloud whereas Signal does not.

And Threema might be sold at any time. Since they’re in it for money with a paid app, they are no less suspecting. The are no indications the nonprofit behind Signal is in danger of insolvency.

Again, your preference is fine, but pretending Threema is immune from fault is silly.

And Signal is a 501c3, meaning it’s finances are publicly disclosed by law, plus their public algorithm dev blogs. Your claim that Threema has no ulterior motives is opinion, nothing more.

There’s nothing wrong with preferring Threema, but your claims that it’s technically better aren’t compelling.

As for whether 72 permissions is a lot, it depends on where you draw the line. According to Exodus, Threema has 44 permissions, and the differences seem to be permissions for things like badges, settings updates, screen adjustments, and other things that aren’t particularly interesting re: privacy.

If the information provided is inaccurate, then that’s grounds to get it removed from the App Store. Threema has more of a conflict of interest here to lie, because their app is paid.

The “you can’t trust what they say” argument cuts both ways.

That contradicts the info on the link you provided, which says the data is backed up. Centralized servers or not, the data packets have to pass by other cloud providers before arriving there.

Furthermore, for the iOS version, Threema collects more information than Signal.

You’re also implicitly acknowledging the comparison site you linked is out of date, which explains why some of the info about signal is out of date.

If you use it in the US or you’re on an Android phone, that doesn’t matter. They can make the destination whatever data center they want, but they can’t guarantee none of the priority infrastructure you mention is in the route. You also ignored the backup storage I mentioned.

Threema is backed up to the same cloud providers you just mentioned, and according to your link hasn’t had an independent security audit in nearly five years.

I will permit at most one more decade for the announcement of a remake until I riot

Strictly speaking, the Ouroboros is the final boss.

But yeah, God and the literal archangels we’re important too I guess.

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