Crepuscular Canard
@turnitup5000db.bsky.social
I am the terror that flaps in the night. I am the bacon in the fridge for all those who cry out in hunger.
To remind you, this is how our conversation began. With an agreement. Don’t know if you’ve noticed, but I conceded the point at the start that Dems are just as bad ON THIS ISSUE.
I assumed you were wanting to do more than tell each other “exactlyyy”. If I’m wrong, let me know.
I assumed you were wanting to do more than tell each other “exactlyyy”. If I’m wrong, let me know.
November 22, 2025 at 5:55 PM
To remind you, this is how our conversation began. With an agreement. Don’t know if you’ve noticed, but I conceded the point at the start that Dems are just as bad ON THIS ISSUE.
I assumed you were wanting to do more than tell each other “exactlyyy”. If I’m wrong, let me know.
I assumed you were wanting to do more than tell each other “exactlyyy”. If I’m wrong, let me know.
You’re repeating yourself almost like you think you’re chanting some magical incantation to ward off adult choices or something. I’m sure it’ll work one of these days.
A better world is just around the corner if you just believe zealously and do little enough you can keep your hands clean.
A better world is just around the corner if you just believe zealously and do little enough you can keep your hands clean.
November 22, 2025 at 5:39 PM
You’re repeating yourself almost like you think you’re chanting some magical incantation to ward off adult choices or something. I’m sure it’ll work one of these days.
A better world is just around the corner if you just believe zealously and do little enough you can keep your hands clean.
A better world is just around the corner if you just believe zealously and do little enough you can keep your hands clean.
When the choices are:
A) Choose to sacrifice those people;
B) Choose to sacrifice those people and also a bunch of minorities and poor people; or
C) Throw my hands up in frustration and hope for divine intervention
I chose A, you chose C, too many chose B, I lost, you got no deus ex machina.
A) Choose to sacrifice those people;
B) Choose to sacrifice those people and also a bunch of minorities and poor people; or
C) Throw my hands up in frustration and hope for divine intervention
I chose A, you chose C, too many chose B, I lost, you got no deus ex machina.
November 22, 2025 at 5:12 PM
When the choices are:
A) Choose to sacrifice those people;
B) Choose to sacrifice those people and also a bunch of minorities and poor people; or
C) Throw my hands up in frustration and hope for divine intervention
I chose A, you chose C, too many chose B, I lost, you got no deus ex machina.
A) Choose to sacrifice those people;
B) Choose to sacrifice those people and also a bunch of minorities and poor people; or
C) Throw my hands up in frustration and hope for divine intervention
I chose A, you chose C, too many chose B, I lost, you got no deus ex machina.
That was exactly my question. Where did I defend that?
I’m pretty sure the gist of what I said was, “This is a choice between two very sub-optimal choices, neither of which was my absolute preference, but one is clearly better on some measures and the decision is binary.”
I’m pretty sure the gist of what I said was, “This is a choice between two very sub-optimal choices, neither of which was my absolute preference, but one is clearly better on some measures and the decision is binary.”
November 22, 2025 at 4:35 PM
That was exactly my question. Where did I defend that?
I’m pretty sure the gist of what I said was, “This is a choice between two very sub-optimal choices, neither of which was my absolute preference, but one is clearly better on some measures and the decision is binary.”
I’m pretty sure the gist of what I said was, “This is a choice between two very sub-optimal choices, neither of which was my absolute preference, but one is clearly better on some measures and the decision is binary.”
Not sure where you read a defense, that’s a decision tree.
November 22, 2025 at 4:05 PM
Not sure where you read a defense, that’s a decision tree.
I’m fine if they don’t get that far.
November 22, 2025 at 3:52 PM
I’m fine if they don’t get that far.
Which is why I’ve said we need a revolution in terms for some time. You’re unlikely to regain capitalism as a term, it’s time to introduce or co-opt a new term that means what capitalism, properly restrained, used to mean.
November 22, 2025 at 3:38 PM
Which is why I’ve said we need a revolution in terms for some time. You’re unlikely to regain capitalism as a term, it’s time to introduce or co-opt a new term that means what capitalism, properly restrained, used to mean.
Social sanction needs to be a warning of impending consequences for it to hold and the elite ranks of society have so insulated themselves from any consequence from outside their sphere that there simply isn’t a way to make it work.
November 22, 2025 at 3:31 PM
Social sanction needs to be a warning of impending consequences for it to hold and the elite ranks of society have so insulated themselves from any consequence from outside their sphere that there simply isn’t a way to make it work.
That’s a big boy!
November 22, 2025 at 3:24 PM
That’s a big boy!
I think the word socialism has unwound people here in both directions, honestly. His proposals are mostly mild expansion of public services, a government owned enterprise, and some rent freezes. If he stays to those you’re talking more Oslo and less Leningrad.
November 22, 2025 at 2:19 PM
I think the word socialism has unwound people here in both directions, honestly. His proposals are mostly mild expansion of public services, a government owned enterprise, and some rent freezes. If he stays to those you’re talking more Oslo and less Leningrad.
I wouldn’t categorize the salaciousness as mild, but I was actually referring to the Covid mishandling and the apparent compromise of him by the rentier class of NYC.
November 22, 2025 at 2:19 PM
I wouldn’t categorize the salaciousness as mild, but I was actually referring to the Covid mishandling and the apparent compromise of him by the rentier class of NYC.
Well, unless you move to New York that’s unlikely to be a problem, luckily😅.
I too am a sideline analyst - I don’t think he’s ever running for office in Oklahoma, nor do I want to live in NYC particularly, just wanting better than Cuomo for the people there.
I too am a sideline analyst - I don’t think he’s ever running for office in Oklahoma, nor do I want to live in NYC particularly, just wanting better than Cuomo for the people there.
November 22, 2025 at 12:53 PM
Well, unless you move to New York that’s unlikely to be a problem, luckily😅.
I too am a sideline analyst - I don’t think he’s ever running for office in Oklahoma, nor do I want to live in NYC particularly, just wanting better than Cuomo for the people there.
I too am a sideline analyst - I don’t think he’s ever running for office in Oklahoma, nor do I want to live in NYC particularly, just wanting better than Cuomo for the people there.
The actual election, though, is a time for mitigating damage because you are getting one of the two results regardless, and they are different in ways that make one better than the other.
November 22, 2025 at 12:47 PM
The actual election, though, is a time for mitigating damage because you are getting one of the two results regardless, and they are different in ways that make one better than the other.
Me too, fwiw. Don’t like the wars, don’t like the death penalty, don’t like the shit healthcare system. Don’t like a lot of things, but my likes don’t affect the choices presented to me. Primaries are the place for that to take precedence, and yes, the lack of a primary last time was infuriating.
November 22, 2025 at 12:45 PM
Me too, fwiw. Don’t like the wars, don’t like the death penalty, don’t like the shit healthcare system. Don’t like a lot of things, but my likes don’t affect the choices presented to me. Primaries are the place for that to take precedence, and yes, the lack of a primary last time was infuriating.
It can be both
November 22, 2025 at 5:01 AM
It can be both
Takes us all some time. I still want to balk some days, and I self-ID as a democratic socialist anymore.
November 22, 2025 at 5:00 AM
Takes us all some time. I still want to balk some days, and I self-ID as a democratic socialist anymore.
I’m not sure what about my reaction is unhinged. Not saying there aren’t unhinged reactions, but I feel like I’ve been more or less measured. There are gains and losses from a PR move in this vein. I believe I’ve said elsewhere it’s a net neutral that shakes the landscape a bit.
November 22, 2025 at 4:53 AM
I’m not sure what about my reaction is unhinged. Not saying there aren’t unhinged reactions, but I feel like I’ve been more or less measured. There are gains and losses from a PR move in this vein. I believe I’ve said elsewhere it’s a net neutral that shakes the landscape a bit.
Probably at some point if he doesn’t keep improving. I’m not actually deeply concerned for his individual fate, but the left desperately needs some respectability politics while maintaining its identity unapologetically, and I think he offers yet another opportunity for that path to be taken.
November 22, 2025 at 4:31 AM
Probably at some point if he doesn’t keep improving. I’m not actually deeply concerned for his individual fate, but the left desperately needs some respectability politics while maintaining its identity unapologetically, and I think he offers yet another opportunity for that path to be taken.
Is PR not an element of politics? They gladhanded, Mamdani didn’t get the patented Trump public humiliation ritual, and given the power imbalance I think he did well. Not sure what you’re driving at. What did you want him to do there, whip out a 9mm?
November 22, 2025 at 4:28 AM
Is PR not an element of politics? They gladhanded, Mamdani didn’t get the patented Trump public humiliation ritual, and given the power imbalance I think he did well. Not sure what you’re driving at. What did you want him to do there, whip out a 9mm?
Whitmer autocorrected to Whitney. 😅
November 22, 2025 at 4:23 AM
Whitmer autocorrected to Whitney. 😅
Yeah. I mean he’s a natural talent, definitely. Whitney is very charismatic and incredibly skilled but it’s still calculated, Mamdani either is just that much of a natural or has lived and breathed bending people toward him, maybe both.
November 22, 2025 at 4:21 AM
Yeah. I mean he’s a natural talent, definitely. Whitney is very charismatic and incredibly skilled but it’s still calculated, Mamdani either is just that much of a natural or has lived and breathed bending people toward him, maybe both.
Didn’t say that. Didn’t make any comment on that at all.
I don’t know if I approve or disapprove, I’m reserving judgement to see what the later moves look like. My point was that this was a particularly difficult bit of political maneuvering and it was exceptionally well executed.
I don’t know if I approve or disapprove, I’m reserving judgement to see what the later moves look like. My point was that this was a particularly difficult bit of political maneuvering and it was exceptionally well executed.
November 22, 2025 at 4:19 AM
Didn’t say that. Didn’t make any comment on that at all.
I don’t know if I approve or disapprove, I’m reserving judgement to see what the later moves look like. My point was that this was a particularly difficult bit of political maneuvering and it was exceptionally well executed.
I don’t know if I approve or disapprove, I’m reserving judgement to see what the later moves look like. My point was that this was a particularly difficult bit of political maneuvering and it was exceptionally well executed.