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Ooh, interesting, it looks like they’re going for the worker-consumer cooperative model. Very cool, I hope it works out
December 25, 2024 at 7:36 AM
*liberatory projects, freaking autocorrect
December 25, 2024 at 7:33 AM
My concern is how to make sure leadership in future liberators projections doesn’t transition from guidance to top down control, undermining the liberatory projects’ commitment and cohesion and allowing them to be more easily destroyed by reactionaries
December 25, 2024 at 7:31 AM
Re: regulating the railways, I also don’t necessarily see why that requires a top-down style authority. Coordination, yes, safety protocols, yes, buy in and oversight by communities, yes, but I don’t see why the bottom up delegate-based system of coordination described couldn’t do that too.
December 25, 2024 at 7:29 AM
The main critique of the CNT from most people sympathetic to what they did from what I’ve read is that charismatic people + a push for anti-fascist unity before revolution and entry into the government ministries undermined their project and allowed for the top-down state to reassert control
December 25, 2024 at 7:27 AM
Lol the author says that in the next paragraph also, I hadn’t even realized. Basically the argument is that yes, it was still a market economy in most places at that point. More communization type stuff didn’t have time to fully take root before the May Days, partially cause CNT leaders sold out
December 25, 2024 at 7:25 AM
Look into the concept of balanced job complexes from participatory economics- the goal would be to give every worker a fair proportion of empowering and menial labor, and slowly erode the skill hierarchy among workers by expanding access to empowering types of knowledge and labor.
December 25, 2024 at 7:23 AM
I’m not following your logic- this seems like a major logical jump from 2.5x pay for several engineers. Say more?

Also, what is the state to you? How do you define “state?”
December 25, 2024 at 7:22 AM
Why would you need a central authority to ensure workers rights if the workers control the railway?
But yeah, the pay differential isn’t ideal. But arguably over time as knowledge is democratized amongst workers and a new system stabilized, that could be gotten rid of.
December 25, 2024 at 7:20 AM
The third quote is especially interesting in that it shows the capacity to plan, reallocate resources, and establish new lines
December 25, 2024 at 6:17 AM
I mean the example I gave you is describing worker owned and managed railways, so it’s not that far off
December 25, 2024 at 6:16 AM
You’ll note in one of the quotes it mentions establishing a new branch line to Aragon, so they must’ve built track
December 25, 2024 at 6:15 AM
Fair enough, haha
December 25, 2024 at 2:55 AM
December 25, 2024 at 2:08 AM
Ooh I haven’t encountered sources on that- curious to read about it. I didn’t know the Ukrainian and Manchurian anarchists also seized railways, my impression had been that it was mainly agricultural stuff
December 24, 2024 at 9:37 PM
The source they’re citing is Gaston Leval’s Collectives in the Spanish Revolution, pages 253-264, which might have more detail on anarchist-dominated unions’ control of the railways in that period.
December 24, 2024 at 9:30 PM
December 24, 2024 at 9:26 PM
Reposted
The NYPD is just doing what they were originally made for, being strikebreakers
December 19, 2024 at 9:39 PM
For @iwriteok.bsky.social and @jamesstout.bsky.social- how seriously should we take allegations about the SDF/YPG shooting at protestors and doing other authoritarian things and losing popular support, based on your own experiences in the DAANES. How much do you think is true vs Turkish propaganda?
December 13, 2024 at 11:14 PM