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Church lady and old soul. Confessional Anglican (PECUSA). Laudian. For inclusive orthodoxy, and Anglican resourcement and retrieval. She/Her. I love Jesus, bats, writing cute stories, and the 1662 BCP.

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I am sorry for my behaviour last night — I lost my temper and behaved in an unchristian manner. Saying publicly, so people may know.
November 15, 2025 at 7:50 PM
He is extremely uncharitable in his portrayal of his theological opponents (me, often).
November 15, 2025 at 2:41 AM
I dislike Rillera’s perspectives very much on twitter and the like, so I could guess easily enough what he says.
November 15, 2025 at 2:40 AM
No.

I had read St Anselm. St Athanasius. St Augustine.

Luther and other Reformers. Their ele

My own churches Mtr Fleming Rutledge.

And the Scriptures themselves is what I’m working on.
November 15, 2025 at 2:30 AM
It is insane to me that God would fulfill his own perfect Justice *himself*, *on our account*.

That this is called evil baffles me.
November 15, 2025 at 1:24 AM
It also is not an invention of Calvin’s, despite this being oft-said. It is readable in various Fathers of the Church, and was a notion common enough in the Roman Church before the Counter Reformation.
November 15, 2025 at 1:24 AM
I don’t say “penal” usually because it implies things I don’t believe about the nature of God and what was being done. But there can be no doubt, Jesus died in our place because he loves us.
November 15, 2025 at 1:24 AM
It’s one of those things where people tell me it’s monstrous and wicked, but to me it is tenderness and love.

Substitutionary atonement is just… in the Bible in an inescapable way, and this model sees something objective happening on the cross.

Which then enables Christus Victor.
November 15, 2025 at 1:24 AM
Well, I don’t believe that. God’s choosing to unite with us isn’t something he decided at the last second. It is his purpose, to be united in love with us.

And substitution to me just means that God loves us so much he took on our responsibilities in order to save us.
November 15, 2025 at 12:50 AM
I think that the Bible speaks so much of debts and in terms of the law etc here that substitutionary atonement can’t be reasonably dismissed, to me it is simply the mechanism by which death is defeated.

And ransom theory too.
November 15, 2025 at 12:45 AM
I believe that both Substitution and Victory are so visibly in what’s happening in the Cross, and so bound up with one another, that I admit to some difficulty in understanding any notion of their being separated, or one without the other.
November 15, 2025 at 12:45 AM
If you still disagree that’s fine

I’m just

Somewhat emotional now timing about the Cross
November 15, 2025 at 12:32 AM
Honestly, Narnia makes a good representation of it

Aslan dies for Edmund, so that the deep magic may be satisfied, and also defeat the white witch.

Christus Victor BECAUSE of PSA.
November 15, 2025 at 12:32 AM
The Blessed Trinity is united in his purpose. And on the Cross God himself is giving himself for us, not punishing some other.

It is because of PSA that there is Christus Victor, because God does have justice but he TAKES IT ON HIMSELF. The mercy and love is just ;-;
November 15, 2025 at 12:32 AM
Alas, I do also believe in penal substitutionary atonement, ha.

I also believe in Christus Victor, and other atonement models as well. There is a lot going on, on the cross.

PSA can be poorly portrayed, but it helps when one understands that there be one God.
November 15, 2025 at 12:32 AM
I like the way C.S. Lewis spoke of God’s timelessness and pointed it to his unimaginable love for us. Wherein God, in our dear Lord Jesus, came and died for you, personally, the woman to whom I speak.

youtube.com/shorts/SiljM...
Jesus Died Especially for You! | C.S. Lewis #shorts
YouTube video by Timeless Christian Voices
youtube.com
November 15, 2025 at 12:19 AM
I absolutely believe in a personal God deeply and profoundly caring and tender beyond our wildest dreams, and I do think that some of the orthodox theologies of God’s being are sometimes poorly explained to people, or make the wrong points.
November 15, 2025 at 12:13 AM
If you maintain an articulation of it that is within the bounds of orthodoxy, that is wonderful.

Every version of profess theology that’s been told me violates the Divine Attributes of God in multiplicity.
November 15, 2025 at 12:09 AM
I should say you speak of “conservative reformed theology” in such a manner as to suggest you might also be unaware that I am that.

As an Old High type, I *am* a Reformed Christian, and see myself as reasonably theologically conservative.
November 14, 2025 at 11:36 PM
I wasn’t aware you held this viewpoint — that’s why I was so keen on ranting about it, I should say, I’d assumed as a professed Anglo-Catholic that, even as we could disagree on Marian theology, you’d probably be there with me when it comes to strongly liberal theology.

So, sorry
November 14, 2025 at 11:36 PM
It is the transcendent God I have faith in you right all things. Not the one trapped with us in the flow of time, subject, like a very strange alien, not God.
November 14, 2025 at 9:13 PM
I know not all articulations of process theology are nearly that bad, but anything that gets away even a little with God’s Almightyness, diminishes Him, and so our hope.
November 14, 2025 at 9:13 PM