Johan Schalin
@schaljoh.bsky.social
PhD, nordiska språk, phonology, etymologi, East Nordic, Finnic, lainasanatutkimus, dialektologi, diachronic linguistics, ortnamn/paikannimet, Northwest Semitic, Catalan.
Researcher affiliated with @utu.fi
#langsky
Researcher affiliated with @utu.fi
#langsky
Wouldn’t ”coronal” be redundant to state if you specify ”laminal” or ”apical”? Only the coronal articulator is the carrier of those specifications.
November 23, 2025 at 5:22 PM
Wouldn’t ”coronal” be redundant to state if you specify ”laminal” or ”apical”? Only the coronal articulator is the carrier of those specifications.
But I reconstruct the Old Nordic <R> (the correlate of the YR-rune) as ”laminoalveolar”
November 22, 2025 at 5:17 AM
But I reconstruct the Old Nordic <R> (the correlate of the YR-rune) as ”laminoalveolar”
In am interested whether it could have consequences for language typology. Last time I checked IPA classified ”laminal” as a ”manner” of articulation, not a ”point” of articulation.
November 22, 2025 at 5:15 AM
In am interested whether it could have consequences for language typology. Last time I checked IPA classified ”laminal” as a ”manner” of articulation, not a ”point” of articulation.
Is this a reanalysis or relabelling you would apply to Yidgha only or also to languages in the Indian subcontinent more generally?
November 22, 2025 at 5:13 AM
Is this a reanalysis or relabelling you would apply to Yidgha only or also to languages in the Indian subcontinent more generally?
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Yes but the fantastic fact is that he actually emulates each dialect when he talls about it. So he talks tens of dialects during this lecture. And his analysis is great too.
November 21, 2025 at 9:32 PM
Yes but the fantastic fact is that he actually emulates each dialect when he talls about it. So he talks tens of dialects during this lecture. And his analysis is great too.
You could add to these phenomena in a wider sense French liaison consonants. These ghost segments raise interesting problems for synchronic phonology. The child involved in L1 acquisition has no access to any historical analysis.
#langsky
#langsky
November 17, 2025 at 11:41 AM
You could add to these phenomena in a wider sense French liaison consonants. These ghost segments raise interesting problems for synchronic phonology. The child involved in L1 acquisition has no access to any historical analysis.
#langsky
#langsky
Fun fact: people don’t know how to sing the second line of the standard translation (from Swedish) of the Finnish national anthem: ”soi sana kultainen!”. Because the lyrics are poetic it is not clear to the singer that ”soi!” is an imperative and thefore triggers doubling: ”soi-s-sana kultainen!”
November 17, 2025 at 5:39 AM
Fun fact: people don’t know how to sing the second line of the standard translation (from Swedish) of the Finnish national anthem: ”soi sana kultainen!”. Because the lyrics are poetic it is not clear to the singer that ”soi!” is an imperative and thefore triggers doubling: ”soi-s-sana kultainen!”
In Finnish, there is a whole noun class, the -e declension, which triggers doubling of the first consonant in the next word (sade-l-lakkaa ’the rain ceases). Also the imperatives do (puhu-s-suomea ’speak Finnish), as many small words as well.
November 17, 2025 at 5:33 AM
In Finnish, there is a whole noun class, the -e declension, which triggers doubling of the first consonant in the next word (sade-l-lakkaa ’the rain ceases). Also the imperatives do (puhu-s-suomea ’speak Finnish), as many small words as well.
Finally, my point was not about ”Fenno-Swedish” (which was studied by Ringen & Suomi) but about the Swedish dialects in Finland, which trace their origins from 13th century Swedish and are generally (but variably) much less phonologically influenced by Finnish helda.helsinki.fi/items/e35df0...
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November 1, 2025 at 9:58 PM
Finally, my point was not about ”Fenno-Swedish” (which was studied by Ringen & Suomi) but about the Swedish dialects in Finland, which trace their origins from 13th century Swedish and are generally (but variably) much less phonologically influenced by Finnish helda.helsinki.fi/items/e35df0...
(5) But after all Fenno-Swedish has a voicing contrast for the pairs /p/-/b/ and /k/-/g/ for which there is no native language equivalent in Finnish. And if this contrast has arisen by the loss of aspiration, the contrast itself cannot be Finnish influence.
November 1, 2025 at 6:55 PM
(5) But after all Fenno-Swedish has a voicing contrast for the pairs /p/-/b/ and /k/-/g/ for which there is no native language equivalent in Finnish. And if this contrast has arisen by the loss of aspiration, the contrast itself cannot be Finnish influence.
(4) The /t/ - /d/ contrast is nevertheless a good argument for Finnish (historical not contemporary) influence, since the Fenno-Swedish also has a contrast in point of articulation: /t/ is nearly dental whereas /d/ is apico-alveolar.👇🏻
November 1, 2025 at 6:29 PM
(4) The /t/ - /d/ contrast is nevertheless a good argument for Finnish (historical not contemporary) influence, since the Fenno-Swedish also has a contrast in point of articulation: /t/ is nearly dental whereas /d/ is apico-alveolar.👇🏻
(3) The study clearly overstates the role of contemporary bilingualism. It is true that a large majority of Swedish speakers (not all though) have a good command of Finnish, but only a minority of Swedish speakers produce Finnish without a revealing phonological accent. 👇🏻
November 1, 2025 at 6:25 PM
(3) The study clearly overstates the role of contemporary bilingualism. It is true that a large majority of Swedish speakers (not all though) have a good command of Finnish, but only a minority of Swedish speakers produce Finnish without a revealing phonological accent. 👇🏻
(2) The study itself states that medial -d- in formal Finnish is no proof of a voicing contrast (which is otherwise unknown in Finnish and its ancestor languages) since the d is made lenis by shortening. Moreover there is difference in point of articulation: /t/ is laminal whereas /d/ is apical. 👇🏻
November 1, 2025 at 6:22 PM
(2) The study itself states that medial -d- in formal Finnish is no proof of a voicing contrast (which is otherwise unknown in Finnish and its ancestor languages) since the d is made lenis by shortening. Moreover there is difference in point of articulation: /t/ is laminal whereas /d/ is apical. 👇🏻
I read the study:
(1) It is interesting that prevoicing of word-initial stops are sometimes short or lacking according to the instruments, but experience tells that much unlike Finnish speakers, there is no tendency to lose the perception or production of contrast in this position - no mishearing.👇🏻
(1) It is interesting that prevoicing of word-initial stops are sometimes short or lacking according to the instruments, but experience tells that much unlike Finnish speakers, there is no tendency to lose the perception or production of contrast in this position - no mishearing.👇🏻
November 1, 2025 at 6:15 PM
I read the study:
(1) It is interesting that prevoicing of word-initial stops are sometimes short or lacking according to the instruments, but experience tells that much unlike Finnish speakers, there is no tendency to lose the perception or production of contrast in this position - no mishearing.👇🏻
(1) It is interesting that prevoicing of word-initial stops are sometimes short or lacking according to the instruments, but experience tells that much unlike Finnish speakers, there is no tendency to lose the perception or production of contrast in this position - no mishearing.👇🏻
Well yes, probably so, but Swedish dialects in Finland, which are generally very archaic, do not have an aspiration contrast. It could of course be because of Finnish influence but strangely enough that would entail innovating the voicing contrast which is completely alien to Finnish.
November 1, 2025 at 3:07 PM
Well yes, probably so, but Swedish dialects in Finland, which are generally very archaic, do not have an aspiration contrast. It could of course be because of Finnish influence but strangely enough that would entail innovating the voicing contrast which is completely alien to Finnish.
A community in now Kyrgyzstan a precursor of the Black Death devastated a trading community in the years 1338-39. The tombstones indicating the deaths in those years of an unknown “pestilence”, are inscribed in Syriac language. FWIW I don’t know if it was native though. www.mpg.de/18778852/060...
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October 21, 2025 at 4:25 AM
A community in now Kyrgyzstan a precursor of the Black Death devastated a trading community in the years 1338-39. The tombstones indicating the deaths in those years of an unknown “pestilence”, are inscribed in Syriac language. FWIW I don’t know if it was native though. www.mpg.de/18778852/060...
To develop the market further journals are needed where ”The” with capital ”T” could be added to ”Journal”
October 17, 2025 at 10:14 AM
To develop the market further journals are needed where ”The” with capital ”T” could be added to ”Journal”
I believe there was until a few centuries ago variation conditioned on phrasal stress patterns even in standard Swedish. The title of the Bible was eg. ”Thän Hälgha Skrift” or something. And standard Swedish still has ”ty” (originally dat. sg. of ”den” ”thän”).
October 13, 2025 at 1:59 PM
I believe there was until a few centuries ago variation conditioned on phrasal stress patterns even in standard Swedish. The title of the Bible was eg. ”Thän Hälgha Skrift” or something. And standard Swedish still has ”ty” (originally dat. sg. of ”den” ”thän”).
Fenno-Swedish dialects frequently have t-. Like here in East Nylandic:
tu ’you’
te ’the/that’
tär ’there’
tesn, tetta ’this’
tå ’then’
tidan ’thither’
tu ’you’
te ’the/that’
tär ’there’
tesn, tetta ’this’
tå ’then’
tidan ’thither’
October 13, 2025 at 1:38 PM
Fenno-Swedish dialects frequently have t-. Like here in East Nylandic:
tu ’you’
te ’the/that’
tär ’there’
tesn, tetta ’this’
tå ’then’
tidan ’thither’
tu ’you’
te ’the/that’
tär ’there’
tesn, tetta ’this’
tå ’then’
tidan ’thither’
So the diaeresis stands for centralisation, right? What does that mean in terms of tongue shape: backed tongue body or slightly backed tip?
October 12, 2025 at 7:34 AM
So the diaeresis stands for centralisation, right? What does that mean in terms of tongue shape: backed tongue body or slightly backed tip?
So whence Mujib? Looks similar but not quite.
October 11, 2025 at 6:01 AM
So whence Mujib? Looks similar but not quite.