Seattle’s conservative wing (liberals) dipping their toe in the water election denialism.

The CFPB was great while it lasted. Some parts of the watered-down ACA helped people in need.

Those aren't enough to justify the demands of unquestioning fealty from voters. Only the most insulated, arrogant Dems believe they can piss on our faces and tell us it's been raining for forty years.

Cost of living? Hell, the Dems went from the party of FDR in terms of social safety net to being just-as-willing as the GOP to take the side against poor and working people.

Human rights domestically? Dems have had every chance to close the gitmo torture camps. They never will, bc Dem = pro-empire.

Human rights abroad? The Dems have given up on all pretense of caring.

Police brutality? Dem admins responsible for giving mil gear to LEOs and the single-biggest LEO budget increase in U.S. history up to that point, as well as the horrendous crime bill in the 90s that destroyed lives for profit.

Now let's put it to the test on other issues;

Labor? There is not a historian who will claim that the Dems have done anything but move right since the 80s.

Healthcare? Went from social medicine to Romney-borne ACA.

Foreign policy? Hard right, hawkish and in service of defense contractors.

This nominal acceptance of a marginalized group as human beings is not a 'leftward' movement, though; it's simple recognition of humanity and rights as equal citizens. At the same time, the rightward push means that queer ppl - already disproportionately affected by issues of poverty - get shafted!

On the issue of LGBT rights, the Democratic has - tepidly, and only when polling proves it to be already-favorable - backed some protections at times for my community.

But Clinton saw the rise of DADT; Obama opposed gay marriage until in polled. And all contributed to murder of queer ppl overseas.

Funding far-right governments in Latin America, Asia, and Middle East? Like, at what point do you stop trying to run cover for your favorites and admit what every political scientist has been saying since the early 90s; the Democratic electeds have swung hard to the right over the past 40 years.

I mean, how would you describe the authorization and expansion of NSA domestic spying programs, or authorizing the sale of military surplus gear to law enforcement agencies, or actively embracing republican-derived policies? The use of armed response against US citizens at home and abroad??

I don’t know who has asked for anything to be thrown away, but uncritical support for politicians who have pulled the Dems hard to the right over the past forty years seems like maybe, just maybe, didn’t help us in the moments where we could have avoided modern fascism.

Please do not interpret any of this as supportive or diminishing the genuine horrors Trump is unleashing; it’s just a view that it can still be worse, and has - at times - been worse.

In terms of long-term consequences, Trump may end up beating Reagan’s impacts on degrading most aspects of public life for anyone but the rich over successive generations. In terms of in-term impact, it is hard (in my view, at least) to top Andrew Jackson.

Sure, and I’m all ears; what are examples of policy where the left hurt Americans?

“We need a popular front” from liberals tends to feel a bit rich given the entirety of their political history over the course of the 20th and 21st centuries; they’re the ones who have been keeping such things from coming to pass, and have been enthusiastic partners to the GOP in stamping us out.

Feels kind of telling that the “flawed” for liberals includes “participated in and / or ordered war crimes” whereas for American leftists it’s… being mean online?

Trump? You acting like Biden’s talking heads weren’t out there lying through their teeth about the Gaza genocide and our role in it?

The role is supposed to be a voice of truth for the people, but I struggle to think of a single Press Sec who has acted accordingly.

We’re also a city that welcomes refugees and is home to a number of people now whose family members have been murdered by the Israelis, both decades ago and since the attempted extermination of Gaza began.

You’re welcome to vote how you like! But when our city has financial ties to Israel, has a sister city in Israel, and has a history of sending our cops to Israel to get trained by the IOF, it is hard to ignore when there remains an ongoing genocide.