It definitely seems to have helped in the past [sarcastic]

Looks like it's an Undisclosed Location.

I don't even need qualitative data to show you the framing of this whole discussion is disingenuous at best.

It makes you seem at best an obtuse knob and at worst a bad-faith misinfo peddler. /end

Lastly I'll just say that making these pedantic arguments that are technically mostly correct-- e.g., "median purchasing power is higher now than in 2020"-- glosses over sector-specific and segment-specific cost crises that are causing real pain for large numbers of people.

Not to mention that this whole "median real income shows everything is fine" line of argument totally ignores the very real distinction between *wages* and *wealth*. Affordability entails the ability to borrow just as much as ability to buy.

Yes, Will, the government *does* measure all of these things... But those data don't all prove you're right. In fact, many of them tell me that you're wrong!

More importantly *actual* wealth among the lower 2/3 of households, not just relative wealth, has gone down since 2000.

The whole income/purchasing power argument is disingenuous because that's not in any way the only, or even best, measure of "affordability."

Exactly. This should be the only metric that matters:

Hello, the middle class in 2001 is calling.

Also "better median lifestyle" is an essentially meaningless concept when a smaller and smaller minority of people actually occupy that mythical space.

How would you explain this?
www.federalreserve.gov/publications....

He mayo may not be the internet's main character now.

DC shouldn't just become a state. It should become 127 of them, at least temporarily www.vox.com/2020/1/14/21...

We're not just adding 4 senators - add 250 to that number! #PackTheUnion
www.vox.com/2020/1/14/21...

Maybe you missed the subtext of this post: Joe Lieberman, an erstwhile Democrat, wouldn't even support a public *option* let alone single payer. It was by no means only Rs that were against it.

I know this isn't just about Hillary, but the claimed context of this particular quote is highly suspect based on editing of this video, which appears to be the source. Will leave it to you to decide whether this was actually her response to that question youtu.be/nEbBwJMyFdA?...

"So clean you could eat off of it" (ironic)

You're probably thinking of Kevin Brown. Apparently Dan has never officially held the title (yet), but he's been working in that capacity off and on. The sheer turnover in the role is probably just as big a factor as any individual, though