Thanks Lou!!

Yayy!! Thanks Andrew :)

Another awesome paper, Tam! Congratulations again ✨

I offended a lot of people when I moved to the USA and used the Australian box as my whole decision tree

Hahah I’m still just calling it a “brain” and the artificial ones “a thousand logistic regressions in a trench coat”

The internet is telling me “Wet Brain is a debilitating condition that arises from prolonged alcohol abuse” and is not providing any other definitions to help me get on board with the concept

Hahah and I’m not advocating for whatever a wet brain is but that we go code it all manually like in the olden days

Yeah for sure - the symptoms we start with are definitely influencing the end result, and it would be very cool to see one built from the ICD symptoms as the starting point!

Good points all round, thanks!

Keen to hear your thoughts! 🤗

I think it speaks more to *my* claims that *HiTOP* sucks for relying so much on analyses of DSM diagnoses - the limitations in the diagnoses didn't affect the structure as much as I thought they would, but I don't think that means the limitations of the diagnoses are a non-issue in general?

Thanks! 🤗

It would be cool to look at different levels of granularity for sure. We do go pretty granular here - maybe even over-separating some symptoms from their causes, consequences, and context, but are there particular areas you'd want to zoom in more? (OCD would definitely be one for me!)

And keen to hear your thoughts in whether asexuality is qualitatively distinct from low sexual interest/arousal? Can the descriptive approach of this kind of framework (e.g., assessing associated distress and impairment separately) capture those experiences without making them 'pathology'?

Thanks for your thoughts!

We didn't have consensus in our group on the 'pathological introversion' label - what do you think would be good there?

I was surprised too about the two separate eating pathology domains. They never really came together into a more coherent whole in any of the analyses

Direct link to the preprint here: osf.io/preprints/ps...

Very keen to hear any thoughts or feedback

And thanks so much to @tam-pham.bsky.social, Matt Roberts, and @carlyjohnco.bsky.social for being an awesome team of collaborators on this project ✨

The paper also adds an empirically derived version of the lower levels of the model, and a revised map between HiTOP and the DSM based on the results (complete with an interactive visualisation we’re working on: hitop-viz.web.app/paper.html)