PS: If you haven’t, read Coates’ piece that prompted this convo. It’s really good:

www.vanityfair.com/news/story/c...

…because I grew up around them, went to college with them, worked with them, & at times have one of them… I fear these people now likely share Klein’s moral/intellectual murkiness & will continue to make the same mistakes. They (we) were always dangerous, but are more so now.

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But this realization doesn’t seem to prompt him to actually truly *listen* to what Coates is saying or engage in any real self-reflections

Sadly there are a lot of well-meaning & powerful (& yes, mostly white) people who admire Klein. I know the type well…
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You could try Wondercide - not sure if it deters, but it might. Definitely kills wasps, etc. www.wondercide.com/products/was...