Americans “take a shit” too. Which is unhelpful to us here, because we don’t give a shit.

Or depressed

Yeah tons from that era seems to have cut through to her friend group. It’s very odd, having lived through it somewhat ambivalently at the time.

High stakes! But we should be honest about what’s going on here and how their casual approach to facts and truthfulness came about

It’s all straight from the Trumpist playbook. More needs to be done to make the link clearer in British people’s minds, so that when Trump goes tits up this lot get dragged down with it.

(I suppose the risk is that Trump doesn’t go tits up, the link benefits Reform, and liberal democracy dies)

My 15yo daughter was disappointed to not be able to go. Much less so now given what she’s hearing about how it went down.

3 isn’t as bad as 2, but it’s still a bit rum to invite loads of people to pay a lot of money and come a long way out of their way if you’re not really doing it for them.

I know a few soft fans who went who didn’t rate it at all, a couple of them actually left early

Yeah, it turns out the whole of the last decade was just come colossal joke.

I am though! And I think that’s my reason for sharing your view on the quality of the experience. Freakily, I found out that Carrie Fisher had died just a moment after I watched her CGI appearance in the cinema. That was nuts.

I think that’s because it’s the only one that feels even slightly coherent with the original three. And that’s mainly a visual impression. But still incredibly powerful for men of a certain age.

Honestly I’ve never known advertising quite so intrusive as this on TV not obviously involving Americans before. It was like being on a wonky website full of adware

Labour voters saying on balance the Union Flag is OK but St George not so much shows Sir Keir can get *some* messages through

3. Leyton Orient