I just think centrist politicians are so risk averse and scared, while those on the right play victim well and get away with murder! Day by day, moment by moment we won’t have anything functional that defined us a society!

Khawaja has been so instrumental on bringing Islamophobia. I hope others follow suit!

B vo! A really good episode of differences of opinion, that hallmark of a friendly debate which shows can happen!

Thank you for sharing.

And I hope the country gets it, and others can learn from it.

Thanks, Owen, I appreciate your insight. I guess for me, because of where we are, just seeing the news gives some hope and optimism, but also shows, prop up the far right and then they also suffer, I wonder if the Tories are following this?

Yes I have noticed with the data. Guess that subtle change helped D66 and perhaps also can show others what to do. Did centre right do anything different?

Someone from the country told me the Dutch centrist party D66 offered optimism over outrage, a credible, pro-European alternative to polarised politics. Realism on migration, focus on innovation, and had a media-friendly leader who embraced new media as well.

And gaslighting people and its working - rather than respond to this, i reckon a strategy to show the damage in numbers so far of his period, not a route his followers will want people to go down.

Ah ok! Apologies! Thanks. Yet still more voters than Tory leadership election.

Anyway both got more votes than either candidate in the 2024 Conservative Leadership election!