When they decided to parade deportees, in manacles and blurred faces, as they boarded their flights in despair, many of us howled that this outrage would not be enough. That nothing would ever be enough. That we have to fight, and that every concession makes the next fight harder and more dangerous.

It all stinks. Jobs for the boys. When will Labour learn that they can't afford to govern this way? They make me sick.

Yes. Predictably even reducing to a level of immigration which costs the country billions has not satisfied them. Labour will now compete on remigration, detention, departing ECHR. And they will continue to alienate vast swathes of their coalition by pandering to insecurity and prejudice.

May elections will be necessary for the PLP to have it confirmed that their voters aren't coming back while Starmer is in No 10.

That cannot credibly be led by the current Labour leadership though. I think we need to absolutely hammer Labour at the polls next year for the left to coalesce around someone, and something, else in time.

They test everything against polls. But the only opinions that drive policy are those of the voters they fetishise. The ones who will never vote Labour anyway.

Meanwhile the European wide cooperation required to prevent these crossings, incorporating a comprehensive returns agreement and safe routes is disavowed because the politics is too complicated. Because it would acknowledge we are not exceptional.

Nobody promised him an ice-cream. Entitled fucker. Enjoy your solo microwave dinner champ.

The hard choice would be acknowledging the economic benefits of migration and championing it. Same with closer alignment to the EU. They shrink from actual hard choices that are in the national interest

Or the coalition that is sitting waiting for them under PR. So many natural, and currently redundant, left wing votes in safe seats. Under PR those votes would count the same as red wall marginals and our entire political conversation changes. I'm beyond angry with Labour tbh

I don't know why they are so contemptuous of the natural Labour voter - who is University educated, urban, socially liberal, internationalist, pro EU, young professional and also left wing on economics and equality. But the contempt is genuine, yet they fully expect us to vote for them anyway?

Exactly - somebody already occupied that space. And trying to stretch the rest of the coalition to that barren wasteland, where complexity, empathy, solidarity go to die, will shatter it.

He's an utter fucking disgrace.

Under FPTP too many voices don't matter, and those which seem to matter most are in parts of the country that aren't as integral to our social and economic life as they are to our politics. It's why we hear so much about Red Wall towns and so little defence of our successes like cities/universities.

Duopolies are lazy and inefficient. Labour believed, not unreasonably, that they would be rewarded for saying "we won't trash the economy like Liz Truss" and punting ephemera like VAT on school fees. There was no incentive to lead a renegotiation of the social contract, which we badly need.

It doesn't help that you have a leader who has an expressed aversion to deep political thinking, and believe this to be a strength of his leadership