They're all nazi bars at this point. Twitter, Bluesky, Instagram, Facebook, even some instances of Mastodon. Nazis get to do whatever they want and any resistance or even impudence against them is punished, frequently.

And this is the so-called "leftist echo chamber!" incredible.

This follows after Gretchen Felker-Martin and Nathan Grayson were suspended for similar sentiments. Really wild times lmao

Leftists are always going to be critical of these kinds of mass-appeal "bring the kids" style protests, but usually because of strategy, or lack of radical potential, etc. I'm sure a leftist who doesn't want them to happen at all exists, but most folks aren't going to be like that from jump.

The stated goal of protest movements like 50501 and Hands Off is to... stop the government from getting worse, for instance by sending people to an El Salvadoran prison camp or deporting college students for exercising free speech. By definition, this is not accelerationist. Doesn't make it bad!

Accelerationism is a strategy centered around coaxing material conditions into a worse and worse state, whether that be capitalist exploitation, the fascist tendencies of a particular government, or even various social tensions, until a critical mass of immiserated people are pushed into radicalism.

I’m not even being like “you have to see a major punk band” - literally just go to a show in your area.

in conclusion:

I don't expect everyone to enjoy or even know much about punk but I do expect better from people with headass opinions about it

That is to say you're in just as much danger going to a punk show as with any other genre. And depending on who you are/your social subject position, that might be a nonzero amount of danger. but also nobody's being tricked into getting into punk in this fashion. it just doesn't fucking happen lmao

"When you do that, you're saying "hey, all this is safe." it is absolutely not safe. don't lead people into danger out of a desire to adopt a twee fashion aesthetic"

Punk is not exempt from negative social forces like sexism and racism but to pretend like it's uniquely dangerous is hilarious

"you do understand you're pointing at the fuckin skinheads and going "this is good", right? and that very much is not good."

I simply do not have the time, energy or patience to explain the SEPARATE SUBCULTURE OF SKINHEAD/OI but I WILL say that antifascist skinheads very much exist in large numbers

"...and they do it by trying to tell people that being punk is some sort of inherent good"

again who tf is doing this? nobody does this. punk *can be* a site for unlearning bigotries and prejudices, for getting an understanding of radical political positions, but nobody *stops* at "punk is good"

"but a bunch of people who understand good things want to oppose a lot of these institutional things (also good)"

I have no idea what the fuck dude's talking about here. what institutional things. what are you saying. just be fucking clear please.

"and nazis fucking love to be against the system."

I can't believe I'm saying this but this is a limited and myopic view of nazis, who are usually very much pro-"the system" when the system is going to give them what they want. such as in the case of the United States in just over a month.

"punk is, at its core, a reactionary aesthetic that is built on the visual ideal of selling you the fantasy of being 'against the system.'"

...anyway, punk - even street punk - has evolved culturally, musically and aesthetically in the half-century since its emergence. fucking obviously.

I admit I've never been much for the fashion side of punk but to be like "punk was never authentic! it was made up by Vivienne Westwood to sell clothes!" while ignoring the fashion trends of the LA, DC Detroit and NY punk scenes is just very fucking funny to me