And some of the nicest, kindest people who contribute most to society don't power their way through the salary charts so it also contradicts its own divisive message.

Well the left have left Labour on the whole (some with Corbyn, some with policies which followed) so I don't see it as intrafactional within Labour these days. But I agree on purity. It's far too easy for the right to be on one side - tax and immigration for instance. Bigger picture is much harder.

I was not aware that Corbynistas did that and I knew a fair few. In my experience there was a lot of the centre right taking the huff that the left weren't falling into line. I am however aware of the current party leader and ex deputy leader telling loads of people they were unwanted, publicly.

I'm not generally inclined to listen to him, but I did, and I believe he has told us that the ECHR is there to stop dictators.

Perhaps they're perfectly competent but not working FOR labour?

They almost could be called the political wing of the BBC given how Question Time and the news have contributed so hugely to making them front and centre of everything.

It's disappointing, but the right lie every day (swans now) and still have relentless support from their base - perhaps unwavering support publicly and any criticism only privately is what the left is missing?

My point is that it's not a binary choice. Assuming you don't want Hamas, you'd still have family of Hamas or people who'd worked under Hamas or acquaintances of Hamas because if you excluded all of those you'd have almost no-one else with experience now, after so long / given life expectancy.

My point is that there will be people who've done jobs for 10-20 years under Hamas who know how stuff works and some of them will have done it despite Hamas rather than in support of Hamas.

Assuming most people think Hamas having a role is a bad idea - what constitutes being Hamas? There are plenty of people who work for governments who don't necessarily agree with them, and they probably have the experience you'd need to run things. It doesn't feel so black and white.

Privatisation, Iraq, Brexit, PFI, corruption and the rise of nationalism and hate. I don't think LibDems can claim much of the credit.

It's fairly obvious that some of those cheering this on will become the new unwanted work workers whether they like it or not and then the new scapegoats. There always has to be someone to blame and it can't be richer people.

I don't think he's a terrible leader but I think he's a certain type of leader. He leads by example and those who follow are inspired by the example. When a leader effectively leads by fear and reward within power structures that does motivate some people, but the motivation becomes career.

Politically, he generally has.

You've been dreaming about tights and heaths?

Undermining both traditional Labour and New New Labour does make me wonder whether they're even aiming for centrist politics or whether they've gone full "divisive news sells".