Hopping on a phone call with someone you know only from a public thread on a social media app is not normal, in 2025 or in any other year, you strange creep.

I closed my Reddit account created in 2005 over the Apollo API debacle. Obviously, I no longer contribute to the site, and when I stumble upon a reddit link, I use a browser extension to automatically redirect the link to a Redlib instance. Fuck spez.

@mjgault.bsky.social I am happy to provide more information here to correct/update your article, including providing my background/credentials to show that I know what I'm talking about. DMs are open.

And the person who you quote in the article making the comparison to Zoom is making the same mistake you are: Zoom was forced to pay a fine because they *are* a messaging application, and therefore the sender<->recipient transport was not fully end-to-end encrypted if they could access it.

In this case, I think the statement that Kohler provided to you is clear and correct; they are not a messaging application, and the user is presumably consenting to the fact that Kohler may receive pics for analysis. They can still claim E2EE here, and it's not a "watering down" of the term.

So Kohler can take your poop pics and train AI with them, or sell them to marketers, or whatever other stupid stuff they're doing, because they necessarily need to receive the pictures in the first place. Conclusion: there isn't an encryption scandal here, just a shitty (pun intended) company.

In this case, the intended recipient *is* Kohler, presumably so they can do analysis on your poop or whatever. In a system like Signal there are 3 parties involved: you, the person you're messaging, and Signal itself. In this case Kohler is both the "person you're messaging" and the transport.

To be clear I support your reporting here, and an internet-connected toilet is a stupid idea. But you're wrong on the definition of end-to-end encryption. Where I think you're getting confused is in the analogy to Signal.

Some other notables:

Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Facebook.
Tim Cook, CEO of Apple.
Sundar Pichai, CEO of Google.
Jeff Bezos, founder and former CEO of Amazon.

Delete Facebook/instagram. Don’t give Apple, Google or Amazon your hard earned money. Buy gently used devices and support local businesses.

Department of Defense.

So, using your phrasing, my point is that the first version likely HAD “read” the whole story, but still got the answer subtly wrong. This is by design; LLMs are not built to give correct information or sourcing, but are instead only generating a statistically plausible series of words.

I realized I never followed up on this thread. No, it’s not about word choosing. My point was that I t’s highly likely that the entire text of I, Robot was used to train every LLM in existence, given how easy it was to find a PDF of the full text on the internet.

Fuck you. You belong in prison in the Hague.

If I had more time on my hands I’d buy this and then fight with customer service (probably for a long time) to get them to send me a 128GB laptop for this price.

Seconding this: I’m a few years older than this Microsoft dingus but I also didn’t get a cell phone until 2000 (or maybe even early 2001). He definitely wasn’t playing Snake on a Nokia until well into his teenage years or later.