Nose? Face-like pebble? Art? Hematite ochre
was likely used in burials and stone tool adhesive, but from a fingerprint to "art" is a bit of a stretch.

Yeah cause without site integrity he might not find out who the zombie mummy was

#Erectus #Sunda #Java

We're just in the wrong parallel multiverse

I mean what do you have as evidence to distinguish them from other fossils without DNA? scattered fossils, most articles suggest we barely know anything about their morphology, it's the DNA which gives it a nudge.

Of course, genetically they're already distinct from Neanderthals or Sapiens, but how distinct from other fossils without DNA and clear taxonomy? Again, Denisovans are not a binomial taxonomic species for a good reason: insufficient evidence.

Also re Erectus, since we don't have any DNA from Erectus, we still don't know the relationship between the so-called "Denisovans" and the Erectus. Morphology analysis can be very misleading if you are to catalogue one genus of Homo. Within Sapiens there's a huge diversity..should tell us something

My point was quite clear..."Denisovans" is not an accepted taxonomic name for genus Homo. You don't see any Homo Denisovanensis ...therefore with the still vague denomination I think we could easily accept another vague "Juluensis"

Denisovans are "bogus" in that respect. The article clearly mentions the possibility that what we know as Denisovans are just robust males, while females might be different and could include Chinese fossils we think of as "different" as there's no DNA from them yet.

Collaboration with U Hawaii and Chinese Academy of Sciences, but mainly supported by Chinese academics. (Xiujie Wu et al) I don't think it's more "bogus" than "Denisovans". The article you reference for the Denisovan jaw places several question marks on fossils which could be Denisovans also....

Yes that's exactly why I mentioned that Denisovan is not an accepted taxonomic hominid itself (homo) but a branch not yet clarified, which is why Chinese are proposing the genus Homo Juluensis to encompass a wide range of morphological similar fossils. Story is not yet finished.

Maybe just clarifying that it was already found for some years, it wasn't clearly identified as Denisovan until now. Chinese archaeologists classified it under a larger hominid category called Homo Juluensis which included several fossils, Denisovans being a type specimen

So true, oral traditions are still so very important, and archaeology should give more credentials to them, while we can still record them. They might be our last chance to look back in time.