I understand and I appreciate the discussion. I'm still wondering, Republic or no, how we rebuild. What is the direction forward...

Sure... beyond social media, the movement away from a reading culture has been profoundly harmful and contributed to this. I have been pairing Fahrenheit 451 and Amusing Ourselves to Death to get them to think about this... but they are resistant...

So I don't have a problem with Warren's statements. But I think that it doesn't mean much unless you pair it with fulfilling people in a spiritual way, so they don't replace it with the false fulfillment of social media. Maybe we don't disagree?

I think part of the longterm project has to be to get people off twitter, instagram, facebook, tiktok, etc. I think the other part is to build a mass movement to change our moneyed elections.

To build that movement, I do think you need to constantly harp on Republican class war for the rich.

That is possible. I'm not sure if this your point, but I would note a Bernie or a Warren isn't getting 50 million from Bill Gates, for instance -- and associated donations. We are in a post-citizen united world and you can't just get creamed in money.

I also agree with you that Trump only is able to exist under increasing partisan division. He is a creature of the social media landscape. I don't think he would've have won a primary in 2000.

Do you feel like Harris proposed dramatic change to address the decades long increasing inequality?

Trump advocated for perverse change, laying the blame on immigrants and "the swamp." Regardless of how disgusting he was, he was actually saying the system was rigged -- which seemed right to people because the materially reality was they were worse off than their parents/grandparents.

Like one can talk about left or right, but the facts on the ground:

1. The richest people in America gained more economic control under every president.
2. The average person is economically worse off: more debt, houses are less affordable.

This creates an understandable desire for change.

Not really about left vs right. In some ways, Harris is probably more left than the public. However, I agree with the pinned image on your page. Our democracy has increasingly been sold out to billionaires. And that has happened with Democrats and Republicans for 50 years.

I agree I lack the power to dictate to you how to use words. I just disagree with how you are using it. This seems circular at this point. I apologize to the extent I have insulted you.

I certainly lack such power. And you lack the power to casually use insulting language towards others and not have people disagree with such usage, find it insulting and inane.

Peace be with you.

Cuban has also demonized Warren. So, you know, it the problem is Trumpian fingerpointing...

And that is the crux. I think Warren's message was useful, he does not. That is a perfectly fine disagreement to have without over the top, unecessary, and frankly incoherent comparisons.

It doesn't change that the actual Trumpian fascistic message has a wide spread appeal in our society because of associated spiritual and intellectual decline. But it does change whether Warren's message is useful or not.

It is also possible to criticize someone without blaming them. Could a working class message have worked better than having a campaign with people like Mark Cuban as key allies. Maybe or maybe not. We are talking a few percentage points for an election.

Words have meaning and correlations. If Trumpian just means fingerprinting, just use fingerpointing -- it is unnecessary and offensive to add those extra associations.

Nor I am not entirely clear why it is less acceptable to criticize the Kamala campaign than it is to blame the voters.

Millies isn't Trumpian, I am not trying to dogpile on the guy (I don't have the audience anyway). It is just seemed an example of unnecessary invective.

I don't think noting a difference in politics is outrage Olympics or Trumpian. Frankly, that seems like more heightened rhetoric than anything I said.

If the population feels aggrieved, populist solutions sell better than a normalcy campaign. You might be right that it might not matter.

Emphasizing the class war that is being carried out against the working class is substantially different than the Mark Cuban certified campaign of Kamala, however.