Doubt about the climate crisis, doubt about who is to blame for poverty, doubt about the damage caused by fossil fuels, doubt about the damage caused by ultra processed foods, doubt about the damage caused by concentrating wealth in the hands of a tiny politically extreme minority...
#r4today
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November 12, 2025 at 8:51 AM
Doubt about the climate crisis, doubt about who is to blame for poverty, doubt about the damage caused by fossil fuels, doubt about the damage caused by ultra processed foods, doubt about the damage caused by concentrating wealth in the hands of a tiny politically extreme minority...
#r4today
#r4today
It's almost like the historical information we learned about the health risks of ultra processed foods has been "lost".
Soon enough we'll all be eating K-rations; well, the 98% who won't have the resources for actual food anyway...
Soon enough we'll all be eating K-rations; well, the 98% who won't have the resources for actual food anyway...
November 12, 2025 at 5:18 AM
It's almost like the historical information we learned about the health risks of ultra processed foods has been "lost".
Soon enough we'll all be eating K-rations; well, the 98% who won't have the resources for actual food anyway...
Soon enough we'll all be eating K-rations; well, the 98% who won't have the resources for actual food anyway...
Yes. Please eat real food & avoid ultra-processed food as much as possible. We love you & want you to be able to live a healthy life. 💖💖💖
Marion Nestle says we need to rethink how we eat. She recommends "real food, processed as little as possible, with a big emphasis on plants." Her new book is What to Eat Now. n.pr/47BoJUw
'What to Eat Now' nutritionist talks SNAP, food policy and the 'triple duty' diet
Marion Nestle says we need to rethink how we eat. She recommends "real food, processed as little as possible, with a big emphasis on plants." Her new book is What to Eat Now.
n.pr
November 12, 2025 at 4:38 AM
Yes. Please eat real food & avoid ultra-processed food as much as possible. We love you & want you to be able to live a healthy life. 💖💖💖
This is a great resource if you've taken the quiz in this week's folder! After incorrectly recognizing some ultra-processed as healthy, this resource gives tips on what ultra-processed means. For example, you should reduce intake of colorings or high-fructose corn syrup. #beh353 @beh353.bsky.social
“Processed” isn’t a bad word. Everything we eat is processed in some way, but the degree matters. The NOVA classification breaks it down and helps you make informed choices—without the guilt. #RealWorldNutrition www.shelleyrael.com/blog/nova-cl...
Understanding the NOVA Classification: What Counts as Ultra Processed Food? — Real World Nutrition
Explore the NOVA food classification system, learn how foods are grouped by processing level, see examples of each group, and get practical tips for reducing ultra-processed foods without guilt.
www.shelleyrael.com
November 12, 2025 at 2:56 AM
This is a great resource if you've taken the quiz in this week's folder! After incorrectly recognizing some ultra-processed as healthy, this resource gives tips on what ultra-processed means. For example, you should reduce intake of colorings or high-fructose corn syrup. #beh353 @beh353.bsky.social
So you lied when you said "A food is ultra processed if formulated mostly or entirely from... refined starches"
Because flour is refined starch by definition. There is no recognizable wheat in bread. (Unless you have fucked up your flour severely.)
And you can't explain why it matters. Okay then!
Because flour is refined starch by definition. There is no recognizable wheat in bread. (Unless you have fucked up your flour severely.)
And you can't explain why it matters. Okay then!
November 12, 2025 at 2:33 AM
So you lied when you said "A food is ultra processed if formulated mostly or entirely from... refined starches"
Because flour is refined starch by definition. There is no recognizable wheat in bread. (Unless you have fucked up your flour severely.)
And you can't explain why it matters. Okay then!
Because flour is refined starch by definition. There is no recognizable wheat in bread. (Unless you have fucked up your flour severely.)
And you can't explain why it matters. Okay then!
Wheat. Wheat & water are all you need to make bread. salt is yummy if you have some.
Milling grains into flours does not make them into “ultra-processed” foods it makes them processed foods.
Ultra-processed is a specific term in food science (look up the NOVA classification system)
Milling grains into flours does not make them into “ultra-processed” foods it makes them processed foods.
Ultra-processed is a specific term in food science (look up the NOVA classification system)
November 12, 2025 at 2:29 AM
Wheat. Wheat & water are all you need to make bread. salt is yummy if you have some.
Milling grains into flours does not make them into “ultra-processed” foods it makes them processed foods.
Ultra-processed is a specific term in food science (look up the NOVA classification system)
Milling grains into flours does not make them into “ultra-processed” foods it makes them processed foods.
Ultra-processed is a specific term in food science (look up the NOVA classification system)
You are mistaking the idea of food being processed ( ie altered by a process) for specific scientific terminology (“ultra-processed”) used in peer reviewed food science
Look up the Nova classification
Look up the Nova classification
November 12, 2025 at 2:16 AM
You are mistaking the idea of food being processed ( ie altered by a process) for specific scientific terminology (“ultra-processed”) used in peer reviewed food science
Look up the Nova classification
Look up the Nova classification
The evidence that ultra-processed foods are bad for us is piling up. But efforts to reduce their role in our diets face a big hurdle: experts can't agree on what they are and which to target.
People want to avoid ultra-processed foods. But experts struggle to define them
The evidence that ultra-processed foods are bad for us is piling up. But efforts to reduce their role in our diets face a big hurdle: experts can't agree on what they are and which to target.
buff.ly
November 11, 2025 at 10:45 PM
The evidence that ultra-processed foods are bad for us is piling up. But efforts to reduce their role in our diets face a big hurdle: experts can't agree on what they are and which to target.
Experts do NOT "struggle to define them." There's been a recognized international standard, the NOVA food classification, in place since 2017, AS MENTIONED IN THE ARTICLE. The only struggle is by ultra-processed food makers to avoid having their food called that.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC...
The UN Decade of Nutrition, the NOVA food classification and the trouble with ultra-processing
Given evident multiple threats to food systems and supplies, food security, human health and welfare, the living and physical world and the biosphere, the years 2016–2025 are now designated by the UN as the Decade of Nutrition, in support of the UN ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
November 11, 2025 at 10:23 PM
Experts do NOT "struggle to define them." There's been a recognized international standard, the NOVA food classification, in place since 2017, AS MENTIONED IN THE ARTICLE. The only struggle is by ultra-processed food makers to avoid having their food called that.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC...
“Our hot sauce is different because it isn’t all processed.”
What.
How did it go from being the base ingredients to sauce then? Is this shit magical in nature?
Because otherwise it was processed. Conflating ultra-processed foods with all food processing is truly head-ass nonsense.
What.
How did it go from being the base ingredients to sauce then? Is this shit magical in nature?
Because otherwise it was processed. Conflating ultra-processed foods with all food processing is truly head-ass nonsense.
November 11, 2025 at 10:00 PM
“Our hot sauce is different because it isn’t all processed.”
What.
How did it go from being the base ingredients to sauce then? Is this shit magical in nature?
Because otherwise it was processed. Conflating ultra-processed foods with all food processing is truly head-ass nonsense.
What.
How did it go from being the base ingredients to sauce then? Is this shit magical in nature?
Because otherwise it was processed. Conflating ultra-processed foods with all food processing is truly head-ass nonsense.
Tofu DOES need to "have" ultra processed ingredients.
Tofu IS ultraprocessed, under basically every definition!
Tofu is the most processed basic food that exists! It's just still healthy, because it's not processing that makes things unhealthy!
Tofu IS ultraprocessed, under basically every definition!
Tofu is the most processed basic food that exists! It's just still healthy, because it's not processing that makes things unhealthy!
November 11, 2025 at 9:20 PM
Tofu DOES need to "have" ultra processed ingredients.
Tofu IS ultraprocessed, under basically every definition!
Tofu is the most processed basic food that exists! It's just still healthy, because it's not processing that makes things unhealthy!
Tofu IS ultraprocessed, under basically every definition!
Tofu is the most processed basic food that exists! It's just still healthy, because it's not processing that makes things unhealthy!
Ultra high processed foods are man-made not grown
If grown chemically altered
for manufacturing profit
If grown chemically altered
for manufacturing profit
November 11, 2025 at 9:06 PM
Ultra high processed foods are man-made not grown
If grown chemically altered
for manufacturing profit
If grown chemically altered
for manufacturing profit
"yoghurt & bread & tofu don’t need to have ultra-processed ingredients"
are you missing the point deliberately or are you just bad at reading?
you just admitted that they DO in fact HAVE the so-called ultraprocessed ingredients, so do you think the food scientists would agree with your definition?
are you missing the point deliberately or are you just bad at reading?
you just admitted that they DO in fact HAVE the so-called ultraprocessed ingredients, so do you think the food scientists would agree with your definition?
November 11, 2025 at 9:06 PM
"yoghurt & bread & tofu don’t need to have ultra-processed ingredients"
are you missing the point deliberately or are you just bad at reading?
you just admitted that they DO in fact HAVE the so-called ultraprocessed ingredients, so do you think the food scientists would agree with your definition?
are you missing the point deliberately or are you just bad at reading?
you just admitted that they DO in fact HAVE the so-called ultraprocessed ingredients, so do you think the food scientists would agree with your definition?
If the food contains an ingredient that you don’t have in your cupboard at home, it’s probably ultra-processed
November 11, 2025 at 8:20 PM
If the food contains an ingredient that you don’t have in your cupboard at home, it’s probably ultra-processed
🍎 Did you know? #California is the first state to ban ultra-processed foods from school meals?
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What a School District Discovered When Its State Banned Synthetic Dyes
More states are banning the petroleum-based additives from school meals.
www.edweek.org
November 11, 2025 at 7:53 PM
🍎 Did you know? #California is the first state to ban ultra-processed foods from school meals?
We featured this story from @edweek.org (www.edweek.org/leadership/what-a-school-district-discovered-when-its-state-banned-synthetic-dyes/2025/10) in our latest EdNews roundup → serpinstitute.org/news
We featured this story from @edweek.org (www.edweek.org/leadership/what-a-school-district-discovered-when-its-state-banned-synthetic-dyes/2025/10) in our latest EdNews roundup → serpinstitute.org/news
Trump cut off food funds for millions of Americans. To survive they must live on cheap processed foods. Not harmless, the ultra-processed stuff promotes overeating, disrupts metabolism, and increases the risk for disease. Meanwhile, Congress is cutting affordable healthcare too.
#FoodSky
#FitnessSky
#FoodSky
#FitnessSky
November 11, 2025 at 6:08 PM
Trump cut off food funds for millions of Americans. To survive they must live on cheap processed foods. Not harmless, the ultra-processed stuff promotes overeating, disrupts metabolism, and increases the risk for disease. Meanwhile, Congress is cutting affordable healthcare too.
#FoodSky
#FitnessSky
#FoodSky
#FitnessSky
I want you to read the phrase "ultra processed is a sloppy poorly aimed term" and then scroll up to the post you replied to, the op, and then your reply.
The "poorly aimed" is the point. Using this term or idea is objectively worse than focusing on actually useful definable concepts.
The "poorly aimed" is the point. Using this term or idea is objectively worse than focusing on actually useful definable concepts.
November 11, 2025 at 4:53 PM
I want you to read the phrase "ultra processed is a sloppy poorly aimed term" and then scroll up to the post you replied to, the op, and then your reply.
The "poorly aimed" is the point. Using this term or idea is objectively worse than focusing on actually useful definable concepts.
The "poorly aimed" is the point. Using this term or idea is objectively worse than focusing on actually useful definable concepts.
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Okay now that you've made a post explaining my point that ultra processed has nothing to do with satiaty, do you have anything else to say?
Okay now that you've made a post explaining my point that ultra processed has nothing to do with satiaty, do you have anything else to say?
November 11, 2025 at 4:48 PM
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Okay now that you've made a post explaining my point that ultra processed has nothing to do with satiaty, do you have anything else to say?
Okay now that you've made a post explaining my point that ultra processed has nothing to do with satiaty, do you have anything else to say?
There is a huge difference between environmental exposure to random chemicals and suggesting that ultra-proceeded foods only harm people, those two things are not the same at all except in that they are something that people can be exposed to. Ultra-processed foods are still edible foods, not poison
November 11, 2025 at 4:47 PM
There is a huge difference between environmental exposure to random chemicals and suggesting that ultra-proceeded foods only harm people, those two things are not the same at all except in that they are something that people can be exposed to. Ultra-processed foods are still edible foods, not poison
To me if we're just talking about it being a "handry rubric" now then that's proving the OP's point that the boundaries of what counts as ultra-processed are not clear and obvious
November 11, 2025 at 4:47 PM
To me if we're just talking about it being a "handry rubric" now then that's proving the OP's point that the boundaries of what counts as ultra-processed are not clear and obvious
Please provide citations.
An umbrella review found that out of 122 individual articles on 49 unique health outcomes, not a single one reported a beneficial health outcome associated with ultra-processed food consumption.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38688162/?ut...
An umbrella review found that out of 122 individual articles on 49 unique health outcomes, not a single one reported a beneficial health outcome associated with ultra-processed food consumption.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38688162/?ut...
Ultra-processed foods and human health: An umbrella review and updated meta-analyses of observational evidence - PubMed
High UPF consumption is associated with an increased risk of a variety of chronic diseases and mental health disorders. At present, not a single study reported an association between UPF intake and a beneficial health outcome. These findings suggest that dietary patterns with low consumption of UPFs …
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
November 11, 2025 at 4:39 PM
Please provide citations.
An umbrella review found that out of 122 individual articles on 49 unique health outcomes, not a single one reported a beneficial health outcome associated with ultra-processed food consumption.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38688162/?ut...
An umbrella review found that out of 122 individual articles on 49 unique health outcomes, not a single one reported a beneficial health outcome associated with ultra-processed food consumption.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38688162/?ut...
you just didn’t read the the thread
A food is ultra-processed if it‘s formulated mostly or entirely from industrial ingredients (refined starches, added sugars, fats, protein isolates) and cosmetic additives (flavorings, colorings, emulsifiers, sweeteners)
& few or no recognizable whole foods;
A food is ultra-processed if it‘s formulated mostly or entirely from industrial ingredients (refined starches, added sugars, fats, protein isolates) and cosmetic additives (flavorings, colorings, emulsifiers, sweeteners)
& few or no recognizable whole foods;
November 11, 2025 at 4:07 PM
you just didn’t read the the thread
A food is ultra-processed if it‘s formulated mostly or entirely from industrial ingredients (refined starches, added sugars, fats, protein isolates) and cosmetic additives (flavorings, colorings, emulsifiers, sweeteners)
& few or no recognizable whole foods;
A food is ultra-processed if it‘s formulated mostly or entirely from industrial ingredients (refined starches, added sugars, fats, protein isolates) and cosmetic additives (flavorings, colorings, emulsifiers, sweeteners)
& few or no recognizable whole foods;
So it mentions high consumption of ultra-processed food, which connects back to what I said about having a non-varied diet, and also the volume of calories has an impact since some ultra-processed foods allow for more calories per volume of food stuff. Prudent to adjust portion size accordingly.
November 11, 2025 at 4:06 PM
So it mentions high consumption of ultra-processed food, which connects back to what I said about having a non-varied diet, and also the volume of calories has an impact since some ultra-processed foods allow for more calories per volume of food stuff. Prudent to adjust portion size accordingly.
“Ultra processed” is a very specific terminology referring to a class of foods whose impact has been *exhaustively* documented w peer reviewed science.
Foods are available w more or less UHP ingredients, & less are *less unhealthy* ie homemade sourdough w organic flours v wonder bread.
Foods are available w more or less UHP ingredients, & less are *less unhealthy* ie homemade sourdough w organic flours v wonder bread.
November 11, 2025 at 4:03 PM
“Ultra processed” is a very specific terminology referring to a class of foods whose impact has been *exhaustively* documented w peer reviewed science.
Foods are available w more or less UHP ingredients, & less are *less unhealthy* ie homemade sourdough w organic flours v wonder bread.
Foods are available w more or less UHP ingredients, & less are *less unhealthy* ie homemade sourdough w organic flours v wonder bread.
The point is anything on a shelf that looks homogeneous but is made up of a bunch of different ingredients looks like that because it's elmusified, but plainly not everything like that is going have the reputation of being "ultra-processed"
November 11, 2025 at 3:58 PM
The point is anything on a shelf that looks homogeneous but is made up of a bunch of different ingredients looks like that because it's elmusified, but plainly not everything like that is going have the reputation of being "ultra-processed"