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Richard Carrier: The Obsolete Paradigm
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November 10, 2025 at 3:27 PM
Discussing my new book The Obsolete Paradigm of a Historical Jesus (now shipping!) on the #godlessgranny show Nov 22. Lots new to discuss. Calendar it and join us!
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Chrisitanity or atheism, recast in such a way by a sub-community that it's dependent on an unreasonable claim, either YEC or mythicism, with the denial or torturous reinterpretation of a significant body of evidence in order to doggedy defend said claim
September 14, 2025 at 12:58 AM
Chrisitanity or atheism, recast in such a way by a sub-community that it's dependent on an unreasonable claim, either YEC or mythicism, with the denial or torturous reinterpretation of a significant body of evidence in order to doggedy defend said claim
Good news for the pessimistic meta-induction argument for Socrates mythicism I guess
June 7, 2025 at 7:55 AM
Good news for the pessimistic meta-induction argument for Socrates mythicism I guess
Paul says he met Peter, as well as James, Jesus’s brother. That epistle is regarded as an authentic letter by critical scholars. The most parsimonious assessment of the data is that there really was an apocalyptic preacher who served as the kernel for the Jesus movement. Mythicism doesn’t hold up.
December 12, 2024 at 4:53 PM
Paul says he met Peter, as well as James, Jesus’s brother. That epistle is regarded as an authentic letter by critical scholars. The most parsimonious assessment of the data is that there really was an apocalyptic preacher who served as the kernel for the Jesus movement. Mythicism doesn’t hold up.
Well mythicism is easy to defeat... where I criticize Ehrman is his arguments for pure historicity "did exist" rely on several Christian apologetics.
March 17, 2025 at 5:22 PM
Well mythicism is easy to defeat... where I criticize Ehrman is his arguments for pure historicity "did exist" rely on several Christian apologetics.
Millennium”
B) Choosing such a tangential source such as this blog that addresses a different argument entirely could be construed as an attempt to muddy the water by introducing the irrelevancy to the conversation about mythicism of the 10/42 debate.
B) Choosing such a tangential source such as this blog that addresses a different argument entirely could be construed as an attempt to muddy the water by introducing the irrelevancy to the conversation about mythicism of the 10/42 debate.
June 16, 2025 at 7:48 PM
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B) Choosing such a tangential source such as this blog that addresses a different argument entirely could be construed as an attempt to muddy the water by introducing the irrelevancy to the conversation about mythicism of the 10/42 debate.
B) Choosing such a tangential source such as this blog that addresses a different argument entirely could be construed as an attempt to muddy the water by introducing the irrelevancy to the conversation about mythicism of the 10/42 debate.
?? Carrier claims that everyone rejects Mythicism out of a combination of a strange inability to break free of Christian paradigms and academic conservatism toward new ideas, with Mythicists and their supporters being forced into silence due to fear for their careers.
You aren't aware of this?
You aren't aware of this?
January 29, 2025 at 9:12 PM
?? Carrier claims that everyone rejects Mythicism out of a combination of a strange inability to break free of Christian paradigms and academic conservatism toward new ideas, with Mythicists and their supporters being forced into silence due to fear for their careers.
You aren't aware of this?
You aren't aware of this?
OTOH, an murderer using anti-religious beliefs to justify their crimes *would* be chest deep in Reddit atheism, Jesus mythicism etc
November 27, 2024 at 9:42 PM
OTOH, an murderer using anti-religious beliefs to justify their crimes *would* be chest deep in Reddit atheism, Jesus mythicism etc
Oh yeah, I agree. People who push Jesus mythicism aren't motivated by an interpretation of the gospels as fiction genre works of literature, they're motivated by just wanting to straight up deny Christianity even the most minimal degree of real-world grounding.
April 3, 2024 at 4:22 PM
Oh yeah, I agree. People who push Jesus mythicism aren't motivated by an interpretation of the gospels as fiction genre works of literature, they're motivated by just wanting to straight up deny Christianity even the most minimal degree of real-world grounding.
Some scholars that suggest that mythicism is plausible:
Thomas Brodie, Raphael Lataster, Robert M. Price, Thomas Thompson, Philip Davies, Hector Avalos, Arthur Droge, Carl Ruck, David Madison, J. Harold Ellens, Nicholas Peter Allen, Rodney Blackhirst, Derek Murphy, Marian Hillar, Christophe Batsch,
Thomas Brodie, Raphael Lataster, Robert M. Price, Thomas Thompson, Philip Davies, Hector Avalos, Arthur Droge, Carl Ruck, David Madison, J. Harold Ellens, Nicholas Peter Allen, Rodney Blackhirst, Derek Murphy, Marian Hillar, Christophe Batsch,
January 25, 2025 at 7:17 AM
Some scholars that suggest that mythicism is plausible:
Thomas Brodie, Raphael Lataster, Robert M. Price, Thomas Thompson, Philip Davies, Hector Avalos, Arthur Droge, Carl Ruck, David Madison, J. Harold Ellens, Nicholas Peter Allen, Rodney Blackhirst, Derek Murphy, Marian Hillar, Christophe Batsch,
Thomas Brodie, Raphael Lataster, Robert M. Price, Thomas Thompson, Philip Davies, Hector Avalos, Arthur Droge, Carl Ruck, David Madison, J. Harold Ellens, Nicholas Peter Allen, Rodney Blackhirst, Derek Murphy, Marian Hillar, Christophe Batsch,
Our latest video discusses the nature of the evidence for the historical Jesus and why full mythicism is an incoherent and untenable position
How Historians Know Jesus Existed
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How Historians Know Jesus Existed
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How Historians Know Jesus Existed
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March 31, 2024 at 5:19 PM
Our latest video discusses the nature of the evidence for the historical Jesus and why full mythicism is an incoherent and untenable position
How Historians Know Jesus Existed
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How Historians Know Jesus Existed
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Per the set of relevantly qualified experts who might, OR might-not, concur mythicism is at least plausible.
What are you claiming when you write: "ALL OF THEM"? Your “rhetoric” would give the impression that NONE concur mythicism is at least plausible!
What are you claiming when you write: "ALL OF THEM"? Your “rhetoric” would give the impression that NONE concur mythicism is at least plausible!
November 16, 2024 at 5:09 PM
Per the set of relevantly qualified experts who might, OR might-not, concur mythicism is at least plausible.
What are you claiming when you write: "ALL OF THEM"? Your “rhetoric” would give the impression that NONE concur mythicism is at least plausible!
What are you claiming when you write: "ALL OF THEM"? Your “rhetoric” would give the impression that NONE concur mythicism is at least plausible!
I’ve read Carrier. Some big mistakes. I don’t find mythicism convincing.
December 5, 2024 at 9:47 PM
I’ve read Carrier. Some big mistakes. I don’t find mythicism convincing.
In any case, I don't find the question of Jesus' existence especially interesting. The 21st-century resurgence of mythicism is just sort of part of my mental furniture. To judge from the passion behind your responses, it is clearly *very* important to you.
June 16, 2025 at 1:24 PM
In any case, I don't find the question of Jesus' existence especially interesting. The 21st-century resurgence of mythicism is just sort of part of my mental furniture. To judge from the passion behind your responses, it is clearly *very* important to you.
But all that aside -- yes it's old, yes it's racist; scandal noted -- it's also a weird component in Jesus Mythicism (I think).
December 9, 2024 at 2:50 AM
But all that aside -- yes it's old, yes it's racist; scandal noted -- it's also a weird component in Jesus Mythicism (I think).
John copied Luke
Luke copied Matthew
Matthew copied Mark
Mark copied Paul
Paul cobbled together dying and rising God myths with OT fictional stories.
A copy of a copy of a copy without an original.
#mythicism
Luke copied Matthew
Matthew copied Mark
Mark copied Paul
Paul cobbled together dying and rising God myths with OT fictional stories.
A copy of a copy of a copy without an original.
#mythicism
April 15, 2024 at 1:00 AM
John copied Luke
Luke copied Matthew
Matthew copied Mark
Mark copied Paul
Paul cobbled together dying and rising God myths with OT fictional stories.
A copy of a copy of a copy without an original.
#mythicism
Luke copied Matthew
Matthew copied Mark
Mark copied Paul
Paul cobbled together dying and rising God myths with OT fictional stories.
A copy of a copy of a copy without an original.
#mythicism
I don't really care about Jesus as historical character anymore.
One reason I got interested in Early Christianity, was because the debate of Historicity vs Mythicism annoyed me, as people participating in the debate didn't present new evidence, but instead repeated the same old talking points.
One reason I got interested in Early Christianity, was because the debate of Historicity vs Mythicism annoyed me, as people participating in the debate didn't present new evidence, but instead repeated the same old talking points.
August 18, 2025 at 9:28 PM
I don't really care about Jesus as historical character anymore.
One reason I got interested in Early Christianity, was because the debate of Historicity vs Mythicism annoyed me, as people participating in the debate didn't present new evidence, but instead repeated the same old talking points.
One reason I got interested in Early Christianity, was because the debate of Historicity vs Mythicism annoyed me, as people participating in the debate didn't present new evidence, but instead repeated the same old talking points.
I'm looking at Steven Novella's view on Jesus, which borders on the Christ-Myth theory. While he's a great scientist, he's simply out of his depth when it comes to history.
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@theskepticsguide.bsky.social #historicaljesus #mythicism #christmyth #jesusexisted
Steven Novella is out of his depth on Jesus: Part 2 – The Curious Christian
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April 14, 2025 at 3:35 PM
I'm looking at Steven Novella's view on Jesus, which borders on the Christ-Myth theory. While he's a great scientist, he's simply out of his depth when it comes to history.
@theskepticsguide.bsky.social #historicaljesus #mythicism #christmyth #jesusexisted
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imo a lot of mythicism discourse ends up like this, with the median pro-jesus having existed argument being terrible negatively polarizing some into the belief that Jesus didn't exist
August 3, 2023 at 6:58 AM
imo a lot of mythicism discourse ends up like this, with the median pro-jesus having existed argument being terrible negatively polarizing some into the belief that Jesus didn't exist
…some of Bart Ehrman’s blogs. He’s a biblical scholar and historian but not a Christian (at the atheist end of agnostic).
ehrmanblog.org/mythicism/
ehrmanblog.org/mythicism/
Mythicism | The Bart Ehrman Blog
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April 22, 2025 at 12:11 PM
…some of Bart Ehrman’s blogs. He’s a biblical scholar and historian but not a Christian (at the atheist end of agnostic).
ehrmanblog.org/mythicism/
ehrmanblog.org/mythicism/
It's crazy, because not long time ago, Richard Carrier was seen as a fringe theorist of Mythicism. Now, people start to wonder who they should believe, the skinny head with tattoos claiming the Gospel of Mark is defending child trafficking, or the scholar that seems to defend child abuse.
May 13, 2025 at 8:46 PM
It's crazy, because not long time ago, Richard Carrier was seen as a fringe theorist of Mythicism. Now, people start to wonder who they should believe, the skinny head with tattoos claiming the Gospel of Mark is defending child trafficking, or the scholar that seems to defend child abuse.
Yeah, that's "mythicism."
Weirdly enough it's a tactic of the christian right's things to pull atheists and agnostics not just back to the faith but even further to the reactionary right
Weirdly enough it's a tactic of the christian right's things to pull atheists and agnostics not just back to the faith but even further to the reactionary right
September 23, 2024 at 1:51 PM
Yeah, that's "mythicism."
Weirdly enough it's a tactic of the christian right's things to pull atheists and agnostics not just back to the faith but even further to the reactionary right
Weirdly enough it's a tactic of the christian right's things to pull atheists and agnostics not just back to the faith but even further to the reactionary right