Peter Sokolowski joins #ThatWordChat next week to talk about the first new Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary in 22 years.
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November 11, 2025 at 5:29 PM
Peter Sokolowski joins #ThatWordChat next week to talk about the first new Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary in 22 years.
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#Lexicography #Editing #WordNerds #MerriamWebster
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October 7, 2025 at 11:08 PM
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Thanks to Stefan Fatsis for joining us on #ThatWordChat today.
Check out his new book Unabridged and see where he'll be speaking next: www.bystefanfatsis.com/unabridged
Check out his new book Unabridged and see where he'll be speaking next: www.bystefanfatsis.com/unabridged
October 7, 2025 at 9:36 PM
Thanks to Stefan Fatsis for joining us on #ThatWordChat today.
Check out his new book Unabridged and see where he'll be speaking next: www.bystefanfatsis.com/unabridged
Check out his new book Unabridged and see where he'll be speaking next: www.bystefanfatsis.com/unabridged
There’s no space limit online. Depth and detail are still possible. “But if the argument is that we need paper to preserve it... I get that. I wrote a whole chapter in my book about paper.” -Fatsis #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:34 PM
There’s no space limit online. Depth and detail are still possible. “But if the argument is that we need paper to preserve it... I get that. I wrote a whole chapter in my book about paper.” -Fatsis #ThatWordChat
Q: If Merriam isn’t updating the Unabridged, is anyone preserving today’s language for future generations in print?
Fatsis: “Merriam would say, we’re updating every day. Just not in the form of a printed unabridged.” #ThatWordChat
Fatsis: “Merriam would say, we’re updating every day. Just not in the form of a printed unabridged.” #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:33 PM
Q: If Merriam isn’t updating the Unabridged, is anyone preserving today’s language for future generations in print?
Fatsis: “Merriam would say, we’re updating every day. Just not in the form of a printed unabridged.” #ThatWordChat
Fatsis: “Merriam would say, we’re updating every day. Just not in the form of a printed unabridged.” #ThatWordChat
Fatsis leaned on reporting, usage research, and revision. “I’d scour hundreds of citations, draft, and re-draft, and rely on my editors to help me shape the entries.” #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:30 PM
Fatsis leaned on reporting, usage research, and revision. “I’d scour hundreds of citations, draft, and re-draft, and rely on my editors to help me shape the entries.” #ThatWordChat
On what makes defining difficult: “It was partly imposter syndrome." Fatsis compares it to his NFL book. “I felt more comfortable at Broncos training camp than at Merriam. I could kick a football. But I couldn’t match the speed or nuance of real lexicographers.” #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:29 PM
On what makes defining difficult: “It was partly imposter syndrome." Fatsis compares it to his NFL book. “I felt more comfortable at Broncos training camp than at Merriam. I could kick a football. But I couldn’t match the speed or nuance of real lexicographers.” #ThatWordChat
Canada offers a contrast. There’s now a grassroots effort to create a new Canadian dictionary. “It’s a nascent project, but there’s a need, and they’re working on it.” -Fatsis #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:27 PM
Canada offers a contrast. There’s now a grassroots effort to create a new Canadian dictionary. “It’s a nascent project, but there’s a need, and they’re working on it.” -Fatsis #ThatWordChat
“The one model that hasn’t been tried in American lexicography is a hybrid: part philanthropic, part institutional, and committed to long-term linguistic research.” -Fatsis #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:27 PM
“The one model that hasn’t been tried in American lexicography is a hybrid: part philanthropic, part institutional, and committed to long-term linguistic research.” -Fatsis #ThatWordChat
U.S. dictionaries have always been commercially driven. “It’s been a business and often a cutthroat one.” Successful new models in journalism may point the way. “Nonprofit, philanthropic, maybe university-affiliated, but still paying people to do the work of lexicography.” -Fatsis #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:26 PM
U.S. dictionaries have always been commercially driven. “It’s been a business and often a cutthroat one.” Successful new models in journalism may point the way. “Nonprofit, philanthropic, maybe university-affiliated, but still paying people to do the work of lexicography.” -Fatsis #ThatWordChat
On the future of American dictionaries: Fatsis suggests the U.S. might need a public-private approach, similar to the Historical Dictionary of American English published at UChicago in the 1930s–40s. #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:25 PM
On the future of American dictionaries: Fatsis suggests the U.S. might need a public-private approach, similar to the Historical Dictionary of American English published at UChicago in the 1930s–40s. #ThatWordChat
“It went viral. Headlines said Merriam was trolling Apple. Ultimately, the quotation was removed, not because it was inaccurate, but because it wasn’t doing its job anymore.” -Fatsis #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:21 PM
“It went viral. Headlines said Merriam was trolling Apple. Ultimately, the quotation was removed, not because it was inaccurate, but because it wasn’t doing its job anymore.” -Fatsis #ThatWordChat
Another word Fatsis worked on is “sheeple.” He submitted a quote from a CNN review of an iPhone case, using sheeple to describe brand loyalty among Apple users. #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:20 PM
Another word Fatsis worked on is “sheeple.” He submitted a quote from a CNN review of an iPhone case, using sheeple to describe brand loyalty among Apple users. #ThatWordChat
“That was my proudest moment,” Fatsis says. It became the 16th transitive verb sense of run—a word lexicographers know is among the most complex in the English language. #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:20 PM
“That was my proudest moment,” Fatsis says. It became the 16th transitive verb sense of run—a word lexicographers know is among the most complex in the English language. #ThatWordChat
That said, Fatsis did get several entries into the dictionary, including a brand-new sense of run used in baseball: “The umpire ran the manager after the argument.” #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:19 PM
That said, Fatsis did get several entries into the dictionary, including a brand-new sense of run used in baseball: “The umpire ran the manager after the argument.” #ThatWordChat
Q: Did Fatsis have an observer effect? Did his presence at Merriam change anything?
A: “No. My entries were edited just like anyone else’s. Probably more so.” #ThatWordChat
A: “No. My entries were edited just like anyone else’s. Probably more so.” #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:19 PM
Q: Did Fatsis have an observer effect? Did his presence at Merriam change anything?
A: “No. My entries were edited just like anyone else’s. Probably more so.” #ThatWordChat
A: “No. My entries were edited just like anyone else’s. Probably more so.” #ThatWordChat
“It was really hard. Days, weeks to draft a single entry. I came in thinking, I’ve written 100,000-word books. How hard can a 100-word entry be? Turns out—very.” -Fatsis #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:13 PM
“It was really hard. Days, weeks to draft a single entry. I came in thinking, I’ve written 100,000-word books. How hard can a 100-word entry be? Turns out—very.” -Fatsis #ThatWordChat
He was given a cubicle, a copy of Webster’s Third and the Collegiate, and access to tools both old and new, including Gove’s Black Books, once used to guide defining. #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:12 PM
He was given a cubicle, a copy of Webster’s Third and the Collegiate, and access to tools both old and new, including Gove’s Black Books, once used to guide defining. #ThatWordChat
On arriving at Merriam-Webster: “They were incredibly accommodating. It reminded me of my time with the Denver Broncos, just without 320-pound linemen.” -Fatsis #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:11 PM
On arriving at Merriam-Webster: “They were incredibly accommodating. It reminded me of my time with the Denver Broncos, just without 320-pound linemen.” -Fatsis #ThatWordChat
“If we decide crowdsourced or AI-overviewed definitions are ‘good enough,’ I think that’s a failure societally.: -Fatsis #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:10 PM
“If we decide crowdsourced or AI-overviewed definitions are ‘good enough,’ I think that’s a failure societally.: -Fatsis #ThatWordChat
But Fatsis argues isn’t enough. “Language doesn’t stop evolving. There’s real value in professional curation. What’s more important than the curation of language?” #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:10 PM
But Fatsis argues isn’t enough. “Language doesn’t stop evolving. There’s real value in professional curation. What’s more important than the curation of language?” #ThatWordChat
On searching for definitions online: “People will Google the word, and whatever shows up first—AI-generated, licensed, or crowd-sourced—is often ‘enough.’” - Fatsis #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:09 PM
On searching for definitions online: “People will Google the word, and whatever shows up first—AI-generated, licensed, or crowd-sourced—is often ‘enough.’” - Fatsis #ThatWordChat
Where does Fatsis go first to look up a word? “I just go to Merriam. I’m loyal.” #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:08 PM
Where does Fatsis go first to look up a word? “I just go to Merriam. I’m loyal.” #ThatWordChat
“In print, the cycle was predictable—ramp up before a new edition, then scale down. But in the digital age, the dictionary never stops. It’s more like a news cycle.” - Fatsis #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:02 PM
“In print, the cycle was predictable—ramp up before a new edition, then scale down. But in the digital age, the dictionary never stops. It’s more like a news cycle.” - Fatsis #ThatWordChat
Fatsis compares it to newspapers: even with digital offerings, few are matching the revenue of the print era. “I’d be shocked if they make a lot of money on the new edition. Margins aren’t bad, but clearly, print is no longer the primary or best medium for documenting language change.” #ThatWordChat
October 7, 2025 at 9:01 PM
Fatsis compares it to newspapers: even with digital offerings, few are matching the revenue of the print era. “I’d be shocked if they make a lot of money on the new edition. Margins aren’t bad, but clearly, print is no longer the primary or best medium for documenting language change.” #ThatWordChat