#OptOuts
Brexit, the optouts and blackmail in the financial crisis are part of the institutional memory.

Can we construct an counter-argument? Is there a way to break the cycle?

Firstly, let's look at Tom's diagnosis. Imperial nostalgia is a major part of the complex.

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October 5, 2025 at 1:44 PM
So are you guys for or against AI optouts, something like a "noAI.txt" ?
November 3, 2023 at 6:20 PM
However, I think not asking for the optouts back would be ok? Especially a commitment to pay fully our share
January 5, 2025 at 6:56 PM
So, set against that, what are the benefits of the opt-out to Europe? The only benefit, what the exceptionalists argue, is that it would help the UK meet the accession criteria.

If the UK is not serious about European law, is it a serious applicant? Will it demand optouts from each new area?

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January 6, 2025 at 11:13 AM
Easy Optouts found my information on a couple of criminal information lookups, which I do not understand because I have never been arrested for anyhthing. I've never even been fined for littering O.o

My half brother, on the other hand, is a career criminal which may have a lot to do with it.
January 10, 2025 at 6:05 PM
Iemand al een backup plan gezien voor als alle optouts niet kunnen? Je kan er wel vanuit gaan dat het wel kan maar mag toch hopen dat kabinet niet zo naief is... "Meneer Wilders wilt u die grens weer afbreken dat mag niet".
July 14, 2024 at 11:45 PM
here's a reminder of all the "OPTOUTS" britain had while a member of the EU.
July 14, 2025 at 5:07 PM
Sure. There are several dérogations, but they're not optouts. You can't detogate from the euro.

You said there are optouts and negotiations in every accession. That's not the case.
January 7, 2025 at 7:03 AM
Its in the treaties.

It is certainly political, but the UK has issues on a few counts, not just support for political and monetary union.

No state, including the UK in 73, has secured optouts. It's better to deal with reality.
November 22, 2024 at 7:58 PM
not sure what the readership of the british independent newspaper is but this is interesting.

Link to poll: www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/poli...

As an aside, joining Schengen is not a criteria for joining the EU...it's seperate.
July 14, 2025 at 5:04 PM
Just as with Brexit, Rejoin can take many forms.

This article highlights the difficulty Rejoin faces. EU members are not keen for UK to Rejoin on it's old terms and optouts

Equally UK support for Rejoin drops dramatically if the UK couldn't have the same terms

www.theguardian.com/politics/202...
Most people in France, Germany, Italy and Spain would support UK rejoining EU, poll finds
YouGov survey suggests majority support idea of Britain returning to bloc – but not on same terms it once enjoyed
www.theguardian.com
July 14, 2025 at 8:08 AM
The SEA would fit this argument better. It involved a large amount of legislative parliamentary power. With the UK optouts the UK were lucky to get a parliamentary ombudsman.
April 5, 2025 at 8:40 AM
I'd say. It has to do with the Treaty of Maastricht. Denmark was the only country of 12 memberstates that did not sign that treaty. Those kind of optouts are negotiated when you enter the union as memberstate; that argument reminds me of the brexit redlines. eur-lex.europa.eu/EN/legal-con...
Treaty of Maastricht on European Union | EUR-LexLog inEnglish
eur-lex.europa.eu
September 3, 2024 at 7:32 AM
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July 22, 2025 at 12:09 AM
$env:POWERSHELL_TELEMETRY_OPTOUT is the official env var for opting out of the pwsh telemetry.

I’d probably look for the ones you mentioned but wouldn’t generally look for all optouts
July 10, 2025 at 3:19 AM
Agree with Andrew and this might sound nit-picky, but, the UK did actually change how Europe operated.

The Single Market was largely a british design. The british really drove that initiative.

The UK ended up with a swathe of major optouts from EU projects like Schengen, Euro etc.
February 27, 2025 at 3:28 PM
All those optouts the UK had are all gone.
The opt-outs the UK had as a member of the EU were far reaching and caused a lot of friction within the EU.

In many respects, the UK was the most "un European" of the member states and to this day, dealing with the UK is still likened to "dealing with a toddler", to quote one EU diplomat.

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April 16, 2025 at 3:37 PM
don't forget all those optouts that the british had whlie a member.
February 2, 2025 at 4:31 PM
That's not correct. None has involved negotiations on the applicability of major areas of European law, only timing and effectiveness.

There have been some dérogations, mainly time-limited, but no optouts.
January 7, 2025 at 6:55 AM
What optouts did the UK secure on joining last time?

(I'll help you: none)

What major optouts has any accession state got?

(I'll help you: none)

You have to be able to take on the whole acquis. Tell me, why don't you like Europe?
November 26, 2024 at 8:08 AM
I'm mistaken on the last point.👆Irelands' unique position on optouts was because of the relationship with the UK before brexit e.g. CTA.

We did win some concessions on Sovereignty & defence (e.g. neutrality) but I am mistaken to connect protocol 21 to same.
May 27, 2025 at 10:58 AM
I quite agree.

The optouts were the incubator of Brexit and Brexitism.

Now that Brexit is out in the wild, these people want to treat it with more Brexitism.

Exceptionalism doesn't work.
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April 17, 2025 at 9:38 AM
Here's a link to the poll results about how Europeans feel about the UK applying to join the EU and optouts. yougov.co.uk/politics/art...

The stats are interesting but as @rolandmcs.bsky.social points out, there is No Rewind!

The World Order & Europe is very different now to 2016.

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July 17, 2025 at 9:00 AM
not seeing soto leave $150m guaranteed on the table. unless its super front loaded with optouts.
November 21, 2024 at 7:45 PM