i don't think these attempts to try and uphold the line really work tbh. primarily because it feels like they're trying to pull up the drawbridge too late when the underlying sentiment driving MAGA/NatCon policy is just a stone toss away from more radical ideology
November 11, 2025 at 10:13 PM
i don't think these attempts to try and uphold the line really work tbh. primarily because it feels like they're trying to pull up the drawbridge too late when the underlying sentiment driving MAGA/NatCon policy is just a stone toss away from more radical ideology
not to hand it to hanania (who is awful in his own right), but he did point out that the main difference between the NatCons and further right groups is just adding on an additional plank to the NatCon framework
November 11, 2025 at 9:15 PM
not to hand it to hanania (who is awful in his own right), but he did point out that the main difference between the NatCons and further right groups is just adding on an additional plank to the NatCon framework
Today's pod: Chris Hayes! On the shutdown cave, the MAGA online crack-up, an anti-semitism horseshoe, Nikki Haley's son going natcon, the crank unalignment, Dems getting anti-establishment juice again, & if an Occupy Atherton moment is coming. Enjoy!
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Chris Hayes: Trump Has Become 'The Establishment'
Podcast Episode · The Bulwark Podcast · 11/11/2025 · 1h 1m
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November 11, 2025 at 8:29 PM
Today's pod: Chris Hayes! On the shutdown cave, the MAGA online crack-up, an anti-semitism horseshoe, Nikki Haley's son going natcon, the crank unalignment, Dems getting anti-establishment juice again, & if an Occupy Atherton moment is coming. Enjoy!
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It was an occasional hobby of mine back on the other place to have a wee look at who young NatCon commentators were following. There's only so much you can tell about that of course but the median seemed to be somewhere right of Oswald Spengler.
November 11, 2025 at 10:02 AM
It was an occasional hobby of mine back on the other place to have a wee look at who young NatCon commentators were following. There's only so much you can tell about that of course but the median seemed to be somewhere right of Oswald Spengler.
Een 'must read' artikel. Hoe MAGA en NatCon verweven zijn en hoe uiteindelijk, onder de strijd tegen gekleurd, islam, lgbtqi en alles wat niet conservatief wit evangelisch is, het Anti Semitische in hun eigen gelederen weer prominent boven komt drijven.
I’ve been working on this story for the past three months, but it could not be more timely, coming as it does just when white Christian nationalists are dealing with antisemitism among their own
momentmag.com/the-new-chri...
momentmag.com/the-new-chri...
The New Christian Right, Antisemitism & U.S. Democracy
For years, Christian supremacist ideology was coursing through American conservatism. Now it—and its antisemitism—is out in the open, in the halls of power and scaring Jews.
momentmag.com
November 9, 2025 at 10:35 PM
Een 'must read' artikel. Hoe MAGA en NatCon verweven zijn en hoe uiteindelijk, onder de strijd tegen gekleurd, islam, lgbtqi en alles wat niet conservatief wit evangelisch is, het Anti Semitische in hun eigen gelederen weer prominent boven komt drijven.
14/ Nate Fischer spoke at Hazony’s last conference (NatCon 5) bsky.app/profile/jenn...
Christian Right investor Nate Fischer co-founded:
1. “SLI” whose board includes Heritage president Kevin Roberts
2. American Reformer, which has received $50k from Heritage
3. New Founding, which partners w/ Raw Egg Nationalist.
He’s upset that people are talking about #3.
1/
1. “SLI” whose board includes Heritage president Kevin Roberts
2. American Reformer, which has received $50k from Heritage
3. New Founding, which partners w/ Raw Egg Nationalist.
He’s upset that people are talking about #3.
1/
November 9, 2025 at 9:49 PM
14/ Nate Fischer spoke at Hazony’s last conference (NatCon 5) bsky.app/profile/jenn...
“For years, Christian supremacist ideology was coursing through American conservatism. Now it—& its antisemitism—is out in the open, in the halls of power & scaring Jews.” 11/4/25 (*Incredible* article discussing Tucker, Nick Fuentes, Heritage, Doug Wilson & his protégés, Yoram Hazony, & NatCon.) 1/
November 9, 2025 at 9:26 PM
“For years, Christian supremacist ideology was coursing through American conservatism. Now it—& its antisemitism—is out in the open, in the halls of power & scaring Jews.” 11/4/25 (*Incredible* article discussing Tucker, Nick Fuentes, Heritage, Doug Wilson & his protégés, Yoram Hazony, & NatCon.) 1/
Sharon by hour 50 of NatCon content I have hotter takes than a Young Karl Marx. I think I am one of the few people who’ve watched the majority of their output…and not died.
November 9, 2025 at 7:51 AM
Sharon by hour 50 of NatCon content I have hotter takes than a Young Karl Marx. I think I am one of the few people who’ve watched the majority of their output…and not died.
maybe this is just a personal thing, but any time i'm forced to read postliberal, natcon, or integralist content, i can genuinely feel myself getting more of a left-liberal socdem by the second, primarily just out of irritation about how so many bad ideas can be rationalized
November 9, 2025 at 4:56 AM
maybe this is just a personal thing, but any time i'm forced to read postliberal, natcon, or integralist content, i can genuinely feel myself getting more of a left-liberal socdem by the second, primarily just out of irritation about how so many bad ideas can be rationalized
Note that Miranda Devine, marked by her Murdoch NY Post affiliation, is a NatCon Signatory.
I prefer to call his culture warriors the Dog-Line. www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12...
#Auspol
I prefer to call his culture warriors the Dog-Line. www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12...
#Auspol
'Ugly and ferocious': The Dog Line at Eaglehawk Neck stopped Port Arthur convicts escaping
Crossing Eaglehawk Neck on the Arthur Highway is a simple affair today, but exiting the Tasman Peninsula was not always so easy.
www.abc.net.au
November 8, 2025 at 11:38 PM
Note that Miranda Devine, marked by her Murdoch NY Post affiliation, is a NatCon Signatory.
I prefer to call his culture warriors the Dog-Line. www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12...
#Auspol
I prefer to call his culture warriors the Dog-Line. www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12...
#Auspol
Murdoch’s culture warriors are interlinked with the Atlas Network & national conservatism more and less officially. Rita Panahi is pushing Atlas partner affiliate Jacinta N Price with natcon-ish Andrew Hastie as a ticket. This is part of Murdochista’s job. #Auspol open.substack.com/pub/lucyham2...
Andrew Hastie: soldier for an extreme version of governing by Christ
Andrew Hastie is a more extreme Fundamentalist Christian than Scott Morrison. Australians cannot let his attempts to lead the nation go unchallenged. His place on the ARC Board is a warning.
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November 8, 2025 at 11:38 PM
Murdoch’s culture warriors are interlinked with the Atlas Network & national conservatism more and less officially. Rita Panahi is pushing Atlas partner affiliate Jacinta N Price with natcon-ish Andrew Hastie as a ticket. This is part of Murdochista’s job. #Auspol open.substack.com/pub/lucyham2...
I think govt work under trump is either volunteer work to advance the natcon agenda, or just naked corruption. Like, you wouldn't angle for a govt job in 2025 w/o ulterior motives.
November 8, 2025 at 5:52 PM
I think govt work under trump is either volunteer work to advance the natcon agenda, or just naked corruption. Like, you wouldn't angle for a govt job in 2025 w/o ulterior motives.
I think it’s spot on. The NatCon party wants the people to embrace that we are always at war, always under threat, and therefore can only trust “the party”. That’s pretty much the subtext from Orwell.
November 8, 2025 at 2:04 AM
I think it’s spot on. The NatCon party wants the people to embrace that we are always at war, always under threat, and therefore can only trust “the party”. That’s pretty much the subtext from Orwell.
eh i don't think this true of Bessent and Vance. Lutnick and Rubio were always closer to the more traditional wing of the GOP but Bessent spoke at NatCon 4, long before it was obvious Trump would get into power, and Vance's politics have only been drifting right post-2020
The thing is, Vance and Rubio and Bessent and Lutnick are all hollow men that are happy to ape normality if they think it will make them more popular.
They are fascists of convenience, unlike Miller or Navarro or Bannon.
They are fascists of convenience, unlike Miller or Navarro or Bannon.
This is why I think shit doesn’t go full fash until Trump dies. Ironically, bcuz Trump is not ideologically motivated, it hampers the ability of ideologues in his admin to act on their beliefs
November 7, 2025 at 2:40 PM
eh i don't think this true of Bessent and Vance. Lutnick and Rubio were always closer to the more traditional wing of the GOP but Bessent spoke at NatCon 4, long before it was obvious Trump would get into power, and Vance's politics have only been drifting right post-2020
Detailed examination of O’Sullivan’s Law in motion around the globe #P2025 #AnarchyInTheUK #NoKings #NotMyKing
Oz feeding natcon to Australia's power elites #auspol
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Follow Lucy Hamiton here @lucyham.bsky.social 😃
Oz feeding natcon to Australia's power elites #auspol
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Follow Lucy Hamiton here @lucyham.bsky.social 😃
"The Australian": feeding national conservatism to Australia's power elites
National conservatism is the ideology that surrounds Trump. It is the faux intellectual dressing for MAGA.
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November 7, 2025 at 2:12 AM
Detailed examination of O’Sullivan’s Law in motion around the globe #P2025 #AnarchyInTheUK #NoKings #NotMyKing
Oz feeding natcon to Australia's power elites #auspol
open.substack.com/pub/lucyham29/p/the-australian-feeding-national-conservatism
Follow Lucy Hamiton here @lucyham.bsky.social 😃
Oz feeding natcon to Australia's power elites #auspol
open.substack.com/pub/lucyham29/p/the-australian-feeding-national-conservatism
Follow Lucy Hamiton here @lucyham.bsky.social 😃
That strand of NatCon thought died with McCain, unfortunately. The younger NatCons and Nazipilled elders have made cynicism a religion and called it virtue.
November 7, 2025 at 1:30 AM
That strand of NatCon thought died with McCain, unfortunately. The younger NatCons and Nazipilled elders have made cynicism a religion and called it virtue.
Genuinely some of the most ghoulish natcon geopol shit I’ve seen, even from budget tom brady here. This sight has clearly the place now if we’re getting crazy natcon posts already.
War crime: "The conduct took place in the context of and was associated with an international armed conflict"
Explain how that fits, dingdong.
Explain how that fits, dingdong.
I genuinely don’t get how you can conclude that by definition a military force shooting unarmed civilians in international waters is not a war crime tbh? Especially since we know some naval officers are concerned it is!
November 6, 2025 at 9:32 AM
Genuinely some of the most ghoulish natcon geopol shit I’ve seen, even from budget tom brady here. This sight has clearly the place now if we’re getting crazy natcon posts already.
IMO, it depends. Right now, I lean more in favor of the former but if the administration follows through with Anton's wing of NatCon ideology in the new strategy doc, i'm not exactly sure that we can disavow the new policy - key would likely seeing *what* the doc says about Beijing
November 6, 2025 at 3:27 AM
IMO, it depends. Right now, I lean more in favor of the former but if the administration follows through with Anton's wing of NatCon ideology in the new strategy doc, i'm not exactly sure that we can disavow the new policy - key would likely seeing *what* the doc says about Beijing
Hazony is a leading nationalist thinker and Netanyahu cheerleader, who runs an annual DC conference where a lot of big MAGA names speak - including Tucker in the past. I think you’ll recognize a lot of the names from this year’s roster:
nationalconservatism.org/natcon-5-2025/
nationalconservatism.org/natcon-5-2025/
National Conservatism Conference, Washington 2025
nationalconservatism.org
November 6, 2025 at 1:44 AM
Hazony is a leading nationalist thinker and Netanyahu cheerleader, who runs an annual DC conference where a lot of big MAGA names speak - including Tucker in the past. I think you’ll recognize a lot of the names from this year’s roster:
nationalconservatism.org/natcon-5-2025/
nationalconservatism.org/natcon-5-2025/
42/ Also in 2021, JD Vance gave a speech at NatCon 2 titled “The Universities are the Enemy.” youtu.be/0FR65Cifnhw?...
November 5, 2025 at 6:20 PM
42/ Also in 2021, JD Vance gave a speech at NatCon 2 titled “The Universities are the Enemy.” youtu.be/0FR65Cifnhw?...
In contrast to the NatCon manifesto which explicitly intends to crash the country with as few survivors as possible so you can re-create the Gilded Age & also happens to be a favorite of quite a few members of your administration?
Conservative accusations are always confessions, full stop.
Conservative accusations are always confessions, full stop.
Trump on Democrats: "I think they're kamikaze pilots. I just got back from Japan, I talked about the kamikaze pilots. I think these guys are kamikaze. They'll take down the country if they have to."
November 5, 2025 at 3:38 PM
In contrast to the NatCon manifesto which explicitly intends to crash the country with as few survivors as possible so you can re-create the Gilded Age & also happens to be a favorite of quite a few members of your administration?
Conservative accusations are always confessions, full stop.
Conservative accusations are always confessions, full stop.
Bari Weiss is likely going to vote for Vance/esoteric NatCon 2028. Matty is not. Although he's likely going to be annoying on the road there.
November 5, 2025 at 3:34 PM
Bari Weiss is likely going to vote for Vance/esoteric NatCon 2028. Matty is not. Although he's likely going to be annoying on the road there.
He has abandoned this sinking ship. ...as rats will do! Chris DeMuth - the former president of the American Enterprise Institute & Conference Chairman Emeritus of the National Conservatism (NatCon) conference has resigned from the Heritage Foundation.
November 5, 2025 at 2:50 AM
He has abandoned this sinking ship. ...as rats will do! Chris DeMuth - the former president of the American Enterprise Institute & Conference Chairman Emeritus of the National Conservatism (NatCon) conference has resigned from the Heritage Foundation.