I hope people see in these poetics—and in our conversation—something helpful for them in their own writing and living now. 4/4

resistance, how documentary poetics like Santiago’s help us remember and assert truths elided from the record. The method actively resists against the state’s narrative, an exercise especially urgent in the context of Trump, but as Santiago demonstrates, has always been required. 3/4

another Trump administration that openly seeks to begin a new era of colonization, while twisting the language of oppression to censor BIPOC, Trans, and queer people, and anyone that allies with them.

I’ve been holding our conversation tight as a reminder of language as a potent tool for 2/4