Actually can you send me books or sources to learn about this because I’m interested in the occult. Imma get in the shower rq so sorry if I don’t reply fast enough
September 24, 2025 at 9:08 PM
Actually can you send me books or sources to learn about this because I’m interested in the occult. Imma get in the shower rq so sorry if I don’t reply fast enough
Whew irl earth doesn’t feel like the final realization of divine energy at all. In a way I guess this could make sense on how the Phoenix heart is eternity does right? Since her energies (and others) is unified on earth
September 24, 2025 at 8:55 PM
Whew irl earth doesn’t feel like the final realization of divine energy at all. In a way I guess this could make sense on how the Phoenix heart is eternity does right? Since her energies (and others) is unified on earth
Do their energies flow through each other up and and down?
September 24, 2025 at 8:50 PM
Do their energies flow through each other up and and down?
Oh i already know that lol. The collective unconscious shapes a lot, it is alike dc comic.
September 24, 2025 at 8:38 PM
Oh i already know that lol. The collective unconscious shapes a lot, it is alike dc comic.
Well doesn’t Marvel like the follow the Kabbalah I don’t study Jewish religion so I guess if we did it would make sense that Tiphereth carry Eterntiy in her as a part of her.
September 24, 2025 at 8:36 PM
Well doesn’t Marvel like the follow the Kabbalah I don’t study Jewish religion so I guess if we did it would make sense that Tiphereth carry Eterntiy in her as a part of her.
Wait were the scans in this message? if so I can’t see them
September 24, 2025 at 8:32 PM
Wait were the scans in this message? if so I can’t see them
Yeah I was somewhat rignt. “The force allowed itself to be shaped by Feron’s dreams into the form of a giant bird”
September 24, 2025 at 8:30 PM
Yeah I was somewhat rignt. “The force allowed itself to be shaped by Feron’s dreams into the form of a giant bird”
Well yeah but like i thought the white hot room was the true form Phoenix, i thought we had already seen it’s true form a long time ago🌝
September 24, 2025 at 8:28 PM
Well yeah but like i thought the white hot room was the true form Phoenix, i thought we had already seen it’s true form a long time ago🌝
Yeah it has been called the heart of the universe and the heart of the Phoenix which is why the Phoenix stated that creations/universe beats in her heart right?
September 24, 2025 at 8:25 PM
Yeah it has been called the heart of the universe and the heart of the Phoenix which is why the Phoenix stated that creations/universe beats in her heart right?
It is from an old comic I read a while back, the character Merlyn also known as Feron (I believe) called upon the cosmic force and shaped it with his magic.
September 24, 2025 at 8:23 PM
It is from an old comic I read a while back, the character Merlyn also known as Feron (I believe) called upon the cosmic force and shaped it with his magic.
Could you show where it is stated that he manipulated the concepts themselves? I have only ever seen M-bodies
September 24, 2025 at 8:20 PM
Could you show where it is stated that he manipulated the concepts themselves? I have only ever seen M-bodies
If this is true that means we have never actually seen the true Phoenix force, because it has always been in its raptors forms 🌝
September 24, 2025 at 8:19 PM
If this is true that means we have never actually seen the true Phoenix force, because it has always been in its raptors forms 🌝
I don’t believe it was ever stated that the Phoenix created the room? Hasn’t it always been stated that the white hot room is the nexus of the Phoenix power, the heart of the Phoenix, the true Phoenix?
September 24, 2025 at 8:18 PM
I don’t believe it was ever stated that the Phoenix created the room? Hasn’t it always been stated that the white hot room is the nexus of the Phoenix power, the heart of the Phoenix, the true Phoenix?
Yeah I know that, that wasn’t my point. My point is that narrative manipulation ≠ manipulation of the concept
September 24, 2025 at 8:17 PM
Yeah I know that, that wasn’t my point. My point is that narrative manipulation ≠ manipulation of the concept
True form. All he did was utilize the energies and shaped it. This is kinda what Hadad did, he formed M-bodies while not fighting the true concepts which makes sense that he cannot because they’re abstract and you can only do that if you have the power to destroy or manipulate concepts
September 24, 2025 at 8:16 PM
True form. All he did was utilize the energies and shaped it. This is kinda what Hadad did, he formed M-bodies while not fighting the true concepts which makes sense that he cannot because they’re abstract and you can only do that if you have the power to destroy or manipulate concepts
For example the reasoning as to why the Phoenix gained the Bird form is because Magic was utilized in order to shape the Phoenix energies, yet that doesn’t mean that the person who shaped the energies were equal to the Phoenix true form. Or even that he is able to fight on par with the Phoenix-
September 24, 2025 at 8:16 PM
For example the reasoning as to why the Phoenix gained the Bird form is because Magic was utilized in order to shape the Phoenix energies, yet that doesn’t mean that the person who shaped the energies were equal to the Phoenix true form. Or even that he is able to fight on par with the Phoenix-
Hypothetically if M-Bodies were created by Hadad through the concepts, that would mean that he still isn’t truly fighting against the true form of these concepts? Because he is utilizing his power to give these concepts form.
September 24, 2025 at 8:16 PM
Hypothetically if M-Bodies were created by Hadad through the concepts, that would mean that he still isn’t truly fighting against the true form of these concepts? Because he is utilizing his power to give these concepts form.
Yeah I was utilizing his body as a way of showing Hadad utilizing TLT M-body in order to drain his power. Can you show him doing that? I’m talking bout the second part
September 24, 2025 at 8:11 PM
Yeah I was utilizing his body as a way of showing Hadad utilizing TLT M-body in order to drain his power. Can you show him doing that? I’m talking bout the second part
Yeah he mastered their manifestation bodies. They’re still called abstract beings in their manifestation bodies because that’s what they truly are. They’re abstract being gaining physicality. We don’t actually see him utilizing his powers to affect the concepts themselves only the M-body.
September 24, 2025 at 8:09 PM
Yeah he mastered their manifestation bodies. They’re still called abstract beings in their manifestation bodies because that’s what they truly are. They’re abstract being gaining physicality. We don’t actually see him utilizing his powers to affect the concepts themselves only the M-body.
Wait that’s taken out of concept. The white hot room is the true Phoenix, it is also the room where the Phoenix raptors are born though. Phoenix raptors are lower manifestations of the room itself.
The room itself is a part of the true Phoenix force “body”
The room itself is a part of the true Phoenix force “body”
September 24, 2025 at 8:08 PM
Wait that’s taken out of concept. The white hot room is the true Phoenix, it is also the room where the Phoenix raptors are born though. Phoenix raptors are lower manifestations of the room itself.
The room itself is a part of the true Phoenix force “body”
The room itself is a part of the true Phoenix force “body”
If someone has the power to affect your true form, then your lower form would mean nothing to them, because lower forms of yourself have lesser power. That’s the reason why eternity stated that the universe aspect of himself is merely an aspect of his full power/true self.
September 24, 2025 at 8:07 PM
If someone has the power to affect your true form, then your lower form would mean nothing to them, because lower forms of yourself have lesser power. That’s the reason why eternity stated that the universe aspect of himself is merely an aspect of his full power/true self.
Yeah Loki was affecting their manifestation bodies (Remember Beyonder lower himself so that they can comprehend him). Loki has never shown to have the power to affect their true form, which is why he was struggling with their manifestation bodies.
September 24, 2025 at 8:07 PM
Yeah Loki was affecting their manifestation bodies (Remember Beyonder lower himself so that they can comprehend him). Loki has never shown to have the power to affect their true form, which is why he was struggling with their manifestation bodies.
The concept of psionic energy, they’re merely hurting the manifestation of that concept.
September 24, 2025 at 8:05 PM
The concept of psionic energy, they’re merely hurting the manifestation of that concept.
Oh another example: The Phoenix raptor is stated to be the nexus of pisonic energy and source of it. This concept is the white hot room though which is why when people hurt the Phoenix, we don’t see people with psionic abilities fluctuate in power or anything like that. Because they aren’t hurting
September 24, 2025 at 8:05 PM
Oh another example: The Phoenix raptor is stated to be the nexus of pisonic energy and source of it. This concept is the white hot room though which is why when people hurt the Phoenix, we don’t see people with psionic abilities fluctuate in power or anything like that. Because they aren’t hurting
That’s because these concepts are the room itself and the Phoenix raptors are merely lower manifestations of the concept and if you affect the M-bodies you’re barely doing anything to the concept as a whole since it isn’t its true power/true form.
September 24, 2025 at 8:05 PM
That’s because these concepts are the room itself and the Phoenix raptors are merely lower manifestations of the concept and if you affect the M-bodies you’re barely doing anything to the concept as a whole since it isn’t its true power/true form.