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Thanks.👍
December 13, 2025 at 3:02 PM
I did check out the Fox Talbot collection but no joy. No use at all but there is this man with a pointy stick by the stables entrance on Water Street in 1946. www.timepix.uk/Collection-g...
www.timepix.uk
December 13, 2025 at 3:01 PM
Neither exactly at their best this time of year but a nice walk and Ness looking good for an early Spring. Burton village is seriously photogenic (note to self) and there's a super view from the garden behind the manor, not to mention a decent cafe.
December 13, 2025 at 2:23 PM
Probably doesn't help much for obvious reasons but there is a good image search site in case you've not seen it before images.manchester.gov.uk/collections/...
Collections - Manchester Images
images.manchester.gov.uk
December 12, 2025 at 11:45 PM
Quite possibly although the new botanic gardens perhaps appears better established than expected. liverpoolbotanicaltrust.org.uk/move-to-wave...
Liverpool Botanical Trust
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December 12, 2025 at 11:04 PM
Got a date for that map? Interesting to see what was at Crown St at the time.
December 12, 2025 at 10:31 PM
Geminids at 2am if you're still up (I think I may pass).
December 12, 2025 at 10:07 PM
Cheers, a joint effort I would say. Still quite a few unanswered questions (I'd like to know where the boiler, engine and thresher were located) but hopefully helps with your info boards. I need different locos and rolling stock for 1837. Having a map with the arches on would help too.
December 12, 2025 at 10:05 PM
Think Bury cheated a little on orientation of the water tower. Summary on thoughts to date. vrsimility.micro.blog/2025/12/11/t...
December 11, 2025 at 10:39 PM
And I'm wrong about truncation. Matches Shaw's sketch apart from the white building which I assume is distinct from the building shown on Shaw's sketch. Possible mess accommodation for engine drivers etc?
December 11, 2025 at 4:09 PM
Image A here is apparently attributed to W Smoult c1829. Not quite sure what that image says, if anything, about the ramp and arches.
December 11, 2025 at 3:59 PM
Apologies for the verbal diarrhoea. Will stop now.
December 11, 2025 at 2:55 PM
The fact that the railway arches and old water tower don't align, ie that the window is partially occluded, is odd. The span of those arches was probably about 20' which works with the 16' water tower span but doesn't explain the disparity. Weird.

The leftward portion thereafter is truncated.
December 11, 2025 at 2:54 PM
@edfarrell.bsky.social So if the old water tower piers/abutments are 5' and the span 16' then the remainder rightwards should be 26' -- which it is! So my guess is it was preserved but built around apart from areas where daylight and/or ventilation was required by whatever was under the arches.
December 11, 2025 at 2:30 PM
Wondering whether the buildings here are the warehouse(s) alluded to in the spec for the arrival station. might explain the weighing machine?
December 11, 2025 at 1:57 PM
that of course would mean that old and new cisterns didn't align.
December 11, 2025 at 1:52 PM
or are both clear areas under the water tower arches?
December 11, 2025 at 1:51 PM
"lefthand arch"
December 11, 2025 at 1:50 PM
Wondering whether the righthand arch is an air intake for the engine and whether the area in front corresponds to the open area under the lefthand arch of the water tower in the 1849 map.
December 11, 2025 at 1:49 PM
Possibly worth mentioning that there is something different about the arch under the water tower and apparently also the next arch to the right (not shown). Whether that relates to equipment under the arch or whatever is above them (road, tanks) is unclear.
December 11, 2025 at 1:32 PM
I think I'm going to include both if only for illustrative purposes. There's no evidence that they coexisted in 1837 but it's not improbable that the engine was still operational and hence a need for the chimney if not the tank. No telling what was left, if anything, of the original by 1849.
December 11, 2025 at 9:23 AM