VinTJ 👾🔎 read shadows house! (Ch. 214!)
vintj.bsky.social
VinTJ 👾🔎 read shadows house! (Ch. 214!)
@vintj.bsky.social
24, Indie #games Enthusiast. Also I'm on steam!
profiction & proship. minors DNI please and thanks! (just don't argue abt "don't depict problematic things in fictional media" and we're good!)

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rip alt text. I tried my best and basically spent an hour but I missed an entire tier..

anyways the "Subdued appreciation" section has Rio in it, that's all you need to know since that's what I talk about in the thread lol.. and yep, counting roughly, this is where I got 40th-to-65th from
November 16, 2025 at 2:04 PM
I would give this the games tag, but on second thought, it's not interesting enough to be worth tagging probably. maybe I should start reserving that tag for proper games and not any gachas or other rants lol..
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
yes this list does show I might have a bias for loli charas, obviously, but. even in the top two rows you can see Ichika and Mika just chilling there

and Yuuka+Hifumi+Kirino+Miyako are more designed as JKs rather than falling into that box imo, despite what some fanart might have you believe
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
it's still WIP because. I am still catching up with some event-re-runs, but I did basically read through all stories and immortalized ones. there's still lots of grind involved in unlocking all bond stories too for example, I technically already have Iroha but I'm waiting to binge! :D
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
anyways sure, I did make a tier list the other day, why not

tiermaker.com/list/genshin...

(it's too big to parse properly for anyone not acquainted with the game. this was for a friend)

(don't ask me about why the link says Genshin, I don't know why either lol.. rip author's categorization)
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
at this point I just see Kaya as a gag character really. it's the best way to try and tolerate her, I will still not take any part of her seriously yet, and I think it's fine for a cast this big to have someone like her
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
I still would give kudos to the writer for like, making Kaya THAT evil, because like, when her plan falls apart before her eyes, it's literally so funny to see her be mad lol.... it is a little cathartic to see the failure there, even though it's probably not the dev's intent to make it be comedy
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
that being said, yes, I do appreciate evil girlboss women, I guess I just have a line for it and where Rio and Mika crosses over into being (almost)-acceptable, Kaya doesn't. I can't explain why or how, but that's just how it is

maybe I am forgetting some Kaya's plot points but I doubt it
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
when all her interactions feel like a ploy it's like. why should I care about her lol..

even in her direct squad of agents, the Fox Squad Leader (Yukino) feels more human to me than her lol... and Yukino's supposed to BE the "just take orders" military unit, so like.. ???
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
while Kaya's only "initial", few "acting" interactions with the MC already gives off bad vibes and there's no level of genuine discussion that I appreciate out of her lol... pretty sure in whatever little offer she gives, ultimately she still wants control and is already scheming far
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
the discussions and questions she puts forth, even when interwoven with white lies here and there, still interests me. she's clever, without wanting to be controlling. she still said some things like "you're free to believe/choose/do whatever" iirc, and I appreciate that, I think
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
worth mentioning; the reason I started this thread with Major Spoilers disclaimer is because like. they initially "try to appear nice" to the MC a bit..?

but like. the reason I relate to Mika more is because even in the initial conversations, it seems like she has little bits of sincerity.
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
I know flashbacks into a personal, sad backstory should be like. saved for later, but like. I can't even believe she has one. if they do give her one I will think that the devs retconned it in, and I wish they never do, despite being thankful Mika probably had that exact thing happen to her
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
(Vol 4) she really basically usurped someone at gunpoint for no good reason, and maybe the fact that (iirc) they gave her a CG doing this made her look even worse than Mika, but like.. you can't just have someone be that-evil and not show adequate reasoning. it feels too quick and abrupt
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
(Vol4?) while for Kaya it's just, I dunno. she's kinda placed far in the Volumes so maybe I got tired of seeing yet-another-antagonist-with-this-vibe. but it feels like her humanity never shines, her reasons are too simplistic, she's too directly authoritarian..?
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
(and knowing the developers, and how far she's gone into her now-a-very-good-girl redemption arc [boo], I guess she will learn to slowly tolerate that one School. surely)

Mika's still in my Top 3 or 5 of the entire cast, basically, while Rio would, in my rough guess, be ~40th-65th, so..
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
some(?) times in the middle, she tries to grasp whatever bit of salvation that she can, and it can sometimes be almost commendable, or at least pitiable, that still makes me realize she's just a normal girl sometimes. some of the reveals can be slow at telling you this, but not in a bad way
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
I will agree that her initial "reason" of doing bad things is, quite frankly, comically-simple (she's "school-racist"), and I know that has troubling implications, but it's such a minor part of the story in the grand scheme of things that I don't mind that being a thing at all
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
there's just something very human and endearing, again, to a cute-anime-girl who just made a little mistake, and end up feeling trapped and needing to stick with the hand they're given and played, even if it's technically a snowballing, downward spiral into murderous rage here and there.
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
maybe I just easily equate "this made me tear up" into "wow, what a good story", and her slow redemption keeps sneaking up on me that way, but..

when she does the things she does I was like "damn, they COULD write something like this?"

(I came into BA expecting a story that's "basically-nothing")
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
(Vol3) on the other hand, Mika is... well. she can be a little of an intense surprise, but I still like her a lot. just. on top of the aesthetic qualities of being pretty and cute, her characterization (before any attempts at giving her a redemption arc) was actually quite interesting to me
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
-I still can appreciate her general intent and how she chose to go with her conclusions and her actions. it's just human.

there's ofc something to be said about "no, the end doesn't justify the means", and I know that to also be true, but like.. she's still within my tolerance levels, basically
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
it's kinda like, she's a bit stuck up and too paranoid for her own good, sure, but I can relate to it and see the bits of humanity behind it.

right after I'm done seeing her in Vol 2 I was just like "we're chill now, it's whatever". maybe because near the end she lost and chose to listen, but-
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM
(Vol 2) imo Rio is tame. Level 1 antagonist. it was a bit bad, but it's not THAT bad lol.. (I ~hope~ this isn't a Recency-Bias thing; the fact that she gets her redemption arc in the ongoing Volume Ex)

I mean she's far from being considered in my favorites list, but she's fine, just misguided.
November 16, 2025 at 1:56 PM