~venir 🇪🇺🇺🇦
@venir.dev
🇮🇹💻 Coding since 2006, struggling since 1992
Building stuff with Dart 🎯 and with Elixir ⚗️
Building stuff with Dart 🎯 and with Elixir ⚗️
effectively wasting their time twice
November 21, 2025 at 1:55 PM
effectively wasting their time twice
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Despite that I find myself sympathising more with the Butlerian jihadists than with my fellow techno-optimists, because
a) it doesn't work
b) it has been co-opted by grasping spivs
c) all the other stuff (bsky.app/profile/rich...)
The culture around AI is abhorrent, and I wish we could change that
a) it doesn't work
b) it has been co-opted by grasping spivs
c) all the other stuff (bsky.app/profile/rich...)
The culture around AI is abhorrent, and I wish we could change that
i think there's just so many different aspects to this that it's hard to have conversations about it where people aren't just talking past each other:
- some people have a moral issue with the theft of it all
- some people are pissed that it sucked all the oxygen out of the room for other tech
- some people have a moral issue with the theft of it all
- some people are pissed that it sucked all the oxygen out of the room for other tech
November 16, 2025 at 5:29 PM
Despite that I find myself sympathising more with the Butlerian jihadists than with my fellow techno-optimists, because
a) it doesn't work
b) it has been co-opted by grasping spivs
c) all the other stuff (bsky.app/profile/rich...)
The culture around AI is abhorrent, and I wish we could change that
a) it doesn't work
b) it has been co-opted by grasping spivs
c) all the other stuff (bsky.app/profile/rich...)
The culture around AI is abhorrent, and I wish we could change that
thank you for the huge work ❤️ 🙏🏽 you're the post macros hero
November 15, 2025 at 8:31 AM
thank you for the huge work ❤️ 🙏🏽 you're the post macros hero
sadly, I didn't see this question go live.
November 12, 2025 at 9:49 PM
sadly, I didn't see this question go live.
What? It makes no sense. By the way, there's a lint for your issue: dart.dev/tools/linter...
control_flow_in_finally
Learn about the control_flow_in_finally linter rule.
dart.dev
November 12, 2025 at 7:14 AM
What? It makes no sense. By the way, there's a lint for your issue: dart.dev/tools/linter...
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Any plans to create a simpler routing?
November 9, 2025 at 4:21 PM
Any plans to create a simpler routing?
I hope I don't sound polemical, but rather curious to see what the team thinks and will do about (apparently just mine?) concerns.
END/N
END/N
November 9, 2025 at 3:24 PM
I hope I don't sound polemical, but rather curious to see what the team thinks and will do about (apparently just mine?) concerns.
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END/N
All I'm asking is: can Flutter make go_router "official", as *the* routing library?
Maybe with a full design doc - I mean, it should be an old and well solved known problem, right?
Other frameworks *do* have an actually "feature complete" impl., e.g. router.vuejs.org, and that just works™
Maybe with a full design doc - I mean, it should be an old and well solved known problem, right?
Other frameworks *do* have an actually "feature complete" impl., e.g. router.vuejs.org, and that just works™
Vue Router
The official Router for Vue.js
router.vuejs.org
November 9, 2025 at 3:24 PM
All I'm asking is: can Flutter make go_router "official", as *the* routing library?
Maybe with a full design doc - I mean, it should be an old and well solved known problem, right?
Other frameworks *do* have an actually "feature complete" impl., e.g. router.vuejs.org, and that just works™
Maybe with a full design doc - I mean, it should be an old and well solved known problem, right?
Other frameworks *do* have an actually "feature complete" impl., e.g. router.vuejs.org, and that just works™
My point is: Flutter is a FRAMEWORK. Not a LIBRARY.
State Management aside, why is routing left as-is? I realize there are the Navigator 2.0 APIs, but let's be honest, that's really low-level and hard to deal with.
4/N
State Management aside, why is routing left as-is? I realize there are the Navigator 2.0 APIs, but let's be honest, that's really low-level and hard to deal with.
4/N
Vue Router
The official Router for Vue.js
router.vuejs.org
November 9, 2025 at 3:24 PM
My point is: Flutter is a FRAMEWORK. Not a LIBRARY.
State Management aside, why is routing left as-is? I realize there are the Navigator 2.0 APIs, but let's be honest, that's really low-level and hard to deal with.
4/N
State Management aside, why is routing left as-is? I realize there are the Navigator 2.0 APIs, but let's be honest, that's really low-level and hard to deal with.
4/N
Then, there's alternatives, e.g. auto_route, but it has completely different APIs, and I (personally) had a bad experience with it.
auto_route is out of scope for the Flutter team, but it's interesting to see there's folks who reject go_router and write their own
3/N
auto_route is out of scope for the Flutter team, but it's interesting to see there's folks who reject go_router and write their own
3/N
November 9, 2025 at 3:24 PM
Then, there's alternatives, e.g. auto_route, but it has completely different APIs, and I (personally) had a bad experience with it.
auto_route is out of scope for the Flutter team, but it's interesting to see there's folks who reject go_router and write their own
3/N
auto_route is out of scope for the Flutter team, but it's interesting to see there's folks who reject go_router and write their own
3/N
First, there's go_router.
Issues on the repo about it are not lowering, some are open since forever.
I see folks complain about it constantly.
Its design "looks" faulty as there's a new breaking change every two months (v 17 as of 3 days ago).
We don't know where that's going.
2/N
Issues on the repo about it are not lowering, some are open since forever.
I see folks complain about it constantly.
Its design "looks" faulty as there's a new breaking change every two months (v 17 as of 3 days ago).
We don't know where that's going.
2/N
November 9, 2025 at 3:24 PM
First, there's go_router.
Issues on the repo about it are not lowering, some are open since forever.
I see folks complain about it constantly.
Its design "looks" faulty as there's a new breaking change every two months (v 17 as of 3 days ago).
We don't know where that's going.
2/N
Issues on the repo about it are not lowering, some are open since forever.
I see folks complain about it constantly.
Its design "looks" faulty as there's a new breaking change every two months (v 17 as of 3 days ago).
We don't know where that's going.
2/N
Is the Flutter team "satisfied" with the current state of routing libraries?
It might sound as an odd question, but there's a lot on the plate imho
1/N
It might sound as an odd question, but there's a lot on the plate imho
1/N
November 9, 2025 at 3:24 PM
Is the Flutter team "satisfied" with the current state of routing libraries?
It might sound as an odd question, but there's a lot on the plate imho
1/N
It might sound as an odd question, but there's a lot on the plate imho
1/N