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Since you find it so hard to respond to people who you have direct replies with, hopefully a quote post will help. Gave you a bloody long time to respond to my points but as you ignored me, those baby gloves are long gone.

My response to Nyara
So there's not much to address to be honest. It's a lot of nothing and more deflection. Ana did a racism. How you may ask? Well aside from a clearly poorly researched article glazing and praising a well known bigot, who again let me be perfectly clear STILL COLLABS WITH Kirsche, who both Ana and Nyara agree is fascist. THEREFORE she is clearly ok with all the stuff Kirsche is doing, Ana’s ignoring of this fact, or just ignorance of it, is bad. (Side note, Kirsche and Pippa both also collab with Fillian, another well known bigot. Now to be clear, during the height of the backlash from the Kirsche article, Ana’s biggest defenders and supporters were BIPOC. (Black, Indigenous, and People of Color). They naturally were quite upset seeing someone who they risked themselves for, suddenly support someone who made their very existence hostile. And so in response, they literally in the nicest way possible, with absolute baby gloves went to Ana and explained how they were hurt, and why this was bad. This fell on deaf ears, as Ana went on to cry victim over this, she didn’t address anything that was said, and fled to twitter, exclaiming how awful it was that bluesky was treating her this way. Again, people were being as nice as possible, and she just ignored them entirely and acted like this was “just a difference in opinion” when No, you praised a racist. And to be clear, in all of the posting I’ve seen from Ana, she has not ONCE even MENTIONED BiPOC, let alone apologised. She in fact went on to double down, and say how much of a contrarian she is, which is ironically very much with the grain. You also likely saw the posts of Ana and Nyara jointly mocking their critics on Twitter, being like “Haha yeah we’re totally nazis” suggesting the criticism wasn’t valid. Again I have not SEEN anyone calling either of them a Nazi, just that they are defending nazi behaviour, in this case bigotry. The main anger now comes from how Ana has ignored people, victim blamed, and remains adamant in her defense of a bigot. This is a genuine betrayal to all the BIPOC who again risked themselves to defend her. They lack Ana’s white privilege yet still went to bat for her, only to be thrown under the bus and treated awful when Ana hurt them. To be clear, both Ana and Nyara are putting their whiteness before BIPOCs pain. This is also racism, intentional or otherwise. So let's address the exact things Nyara has said. She talks about talking with Ana in private, and saying how she disagreed with stuff she said. Cool, great, it does nothing unless Ana herself voices an understanding, you haven’t helped her, we are all left to assume her stance hasn’t changed, meaning she still supports a bigot. Guilt by association is used, and she says people have taken it too far. I'm not sure if she’s talking about herself and Ana, or Kirsche and Pippa, so I’ll address both potentials. If it's Ana and Nyara, well you’ve been actively ignoring people who have responded directly to you, blocking people cuz they were angry at you in the moment, if you want others to respect your own emotional state, you bloody well need to appreciate their anger is justified. Ana is defending a bigot, and being friends and defending a defender of bigotry, is actually a pretty good example of Guilt by association. Again a lot of this was said before your recent post, they had no idea you had disagreements because you weren’t addressing it, or giving us an idea you were addressing it, your silence was bloody loud. Now you’ve voiced disagreement with Ana, but also haven’t stopped defending her support of Pippa, so the guilt by association still stands. That's just how that works. As for the Guilt by association for Kirsche and Pippa, The Nazi bar metaphor should be enough of an explanation to this. If you don’t see how that applies here, I think you really need to spend more time researching. The next part I’ll be addressing is the idea of throwing Ana under the bus, it’s clear that she thinks we’re asking her to just abandon Ana or whatever, but we’re asking for accountability, we’re holding both of your feet to the fire, as you BOTH have done racism with this, we’re asking you both to acknowledge that, which neither of you seem capable of doing. Claiming this as ‘dog piling’ when you are being called out for racism is just such a deflection and dishonest thing to do. You aren’t victims in this, you are both the culprits who have harmed BIPOC. If you can’t understand that not apologising for racism and ignoring their hurt is a dealbreaker that's on you, this isn’t JUST about the article and pretending it’s not about the aftermath and how you both treated people in said aftermath. You’re constantly bringing up things outside the scope of what people are upset about, and it’s incredibly disingenuous. We are currently complaining about YOUR racism, not anything else. You’ve both had it rough, but that doesn’t shield you from the consequences of your own actions. No one wanted Ana to be a warrior, nor do we see either of you as weapons, you are humans, we understand that, and that humans are flawed and make mistakes, if you had both owned up to said mistakes, we wouldn’t be here now. We don’t expect perfection, we expect growth. We aren’t “discarding” you, we are holding you to account, because if you cherry pick which bigotry you fight, you aren’t fighting for any of us, you don’t get to claim to be progressive and throw BIPOC under the bus. In the end you FINALLY mention BIPOC, but after making it entirely about you and Ana and not addressing any of the harm you two caused. You are centering your whiteness the entire time. You have lost the trust and respect of progressives due to your own actions, we don’t stand by people who don’t stand for all, it’s that simple. The only ones destroying your platforms and careers right now, are you two. You have only yourselves to blame. I hope you truly listen and learn and stop making it about yourself. I can’t know your heart of hearts, I can only go off your public output, and it’s a shame to see you ruin yourself over not being able to see past your own whiteness. If you want suggestions? Read and respond with those in yours and Ana’s replies who expressed their hurt, listen to them, actually try to understand them, see the humanity in them, and understand their anger is justified. And also like don’t lie and say everythings so scattered, you literally could have responded to me directly or hell anyone else that was talking about this, but you didn’t. You gave a quote post to a white person, and continued to ignore anyone who wasn't a yes man to you. From the bottom of my heart I hope you and Ana both learn and grow from this, and are also aware it's going to take A LOT to earn back the trust and Goodwill of BIPOC, and you must take the consequence of some will never trust you again. That's all from me for now.
June 21, 2025 at 6:29 PM