I am constantly amazed by the fact that almost always an outrageous DM or telegraph headline is shown to be misinformation - suggesting it’s not the journalists that are the problem, but the person(s) who writes the headlines to go with the article
November 1, 2025 at 1:04 PM
I am constantly amazed by the fact that almost always an outrageous DM or telegraph headline is shown to be misinformation - suggesting it’s not the journalists that are the problem, but the person(s) who writes the headlines to go with the article
Yes but it’s only been a year - short of throwing the fiscal rules out of the window and either giving people money or cutting taxes and then collapsing the economy as gilts shoot up it’s not actually logical to expect that to happen in a year
October 6, 2025 at 12:41 PM
Yes but it’s only been a year - short of throwing the fiscal rules out of the window and either giving people money or cutting taxes and then collapsing the economy as gilts shoot up it’s not actually logical to expect that to happen in a year
Yes this is a particular bugbear of mine, Labour have done a huge amount of policies since coming to power but so many have the impression they’re doing nothing.
By all means disagree with the policies, but don’t misrepresent what’s actually happening
By all means disagree with the policies, but don’t misrepresent what’s actually happening
October 6, 2025 at 11:00 AM
Yes this is a particular bugbear of mine, Labour have done a huge amount of policies since coming to power but so many have the impression they’re doing nothing.
By all means disagree with the policies, but don’t misrepresent what’s actually happening
By all means disagree with the policies, but don’t misrepresent what’s actually happening
Where does increasing the public sector pay above the level of inflation fit with austerity? Or increasing NHS spending above inflation? setting up a wealth fund?
Come on, let’s not belittle the impact of austerity by using it when it’s clearly not happening under Labour
Come on, let’s not belittle the impact of austerity by using it when it’s clearly not happening under Labour
October 6, 2025 at 8:32 AM
Where does increasing the public sector pay above the level of inflation fit with austerity? Or increasing NHS spending above inflation? setting up a wealth fund?
Come on, let’s not belittle the impact of austerity by using it when it’s clearly not happening under Labour
Come on, let’s not belittle the impact of austerity by using it when it’s clearly not happening under Labour
Yes and no on the second point, the rising popularity of tactical voting with progressives offsets it being more spread out, and I suspect the “stop reform” motivation to be significantly more than stop the Tories was
September 9, 2025 at 1:05 PM
Yes and no on the second point, the rising popularity of tactical voting with progressives offsets it being more spread out, and I suspect the “stop reform” motivation to be significantly more than stop the Tories was
Original poster - @bestforbritain.org
Yes agree that Labour needs better comms, but equally it was important to temper expectations given just how bad the country got when they came to power
Now however it’s looking like it’s right to be optimistic and bullish how the country is doing
Yes agree that Labour needs better comms, but equally it was important to temper expectations given just how bad the country got when they came to power
Now however it’s looking like it’s right to be optimistic and bullish how the country is doing
August 14, 2025 at 11:45 AM
Original poster - @bestforbritain.org
Yes agree that Labour needs better comms, but equally it was important to temper expectations given just how bad the country got when they came to power
Now however it’s looking like it’s right to be optimistic and bullish how the country is doing
Yes agree that Labour needs better comms, but equally it was important to temper expectations given just how bad the country got when they came to power
Now however it’s looking like it’s right to be optimistic and bullish how the country is doing
It’s also self fulfilling which is why the right wing press do it - talk down the economy and people don’t spend which has an impact on the economy.
I completely believe OP has the best interests of the country in mind but adding to the poor framing of what is excellent news isn’t helping
I completely believe OP has the best interests of the country in mind but adding to the poor framing of what is excellent news isn’t helping
August 14, 2025 at 11:07 AM
It’s also self fulfilling which is why the right wing press do it - talk down the economy and people don’t spend which has an impact on the economy.
I completely believe OP has the best interests of the country in mind but adding to the poor framing of what is excellent news isn’t helping
I completely believe OP has the best interests of the country in mind but adding to the poor framing of what is excellent news isn’t helping
Blimey not you too
This is 0.2% higher than estimated, and means with 1% for the 6 months of 2025 means the UK is still top of the G7 outpacing US with only 0.6% and well on track to smash the est 1.2%
Clearly we need to fix trade, but not talking down positive news is also best for Britain, no?
This is 0.2% higher than estimated, and means with 1% for the 6 months of 2025 means the UK is still top of the G7 outpacing US with only 0.6% and well on track to smash the est 1.2%
Clearly we need to fix trade, but not talking down positive news is also best for Britain, no?
August 14, 2025 at 11:02 AM
Blimey not you too
This is 0.2% higher than estimated, and means with 1% for the 6 months of 2025 means the UK is still top of the G7 outpacing US with only 0.6% and well on track to smash the est 1.2%
Clearly we need to fix trade, but not talking down positive news is also best for Britain, no?
This is 0.2% higher than estimated, and means with 1% for the 6 months of 2025 means the UK is still top of the G7 outpacing US with only 0.6% and well on track to smash the est 1.2%
Clearly we need to fix trade, but not talking down positive news is also best for Britain, no?
From this thread i feel you’d like the games by @protopop.bsky.social on iOS - he’s made a few but i think meadowfell is his latest, a beautiful procedurally generated open world with no quests or combat, just exploring
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August 11, 2025 at 9:02 PM
From this thread i feel you’d like the games by @protopop.bsky.social on iOS - he’s made a few but i think meadowfell is his latest, a beautiful procedurally generated open world with no quests or combat, just exploring
apps.apple.com/gb/app/meado...
apps.apple.com/gb/app/meado...
reality when it wasn’t to Rwanda as well as the actual asylum seekers not wanting to risk their legitimate chance via the safe route. As you say it’ll be tested in court, but it looks much more legal so likely to work
Anyway, thanks and Have a good day!
Anyway, thanks and Have a good day!
August 8, 2025 at 5:12 PM
reality when it wasn’t to Rwanda as well as the actual asylum seekers not wanting to risk their legitimate chance via the safe route. As you say it’ll be tested in court, but it looks much more legal so likely to work
Anyway, thanks and Have a good day!
Anyway, thanks and Have a good day!
😂 ok you’re getting somewhat ridiculous with your speculations now
Thanks for the debate, but I haven’t seen anything that changes my view this is basically taking the Rwanda scheme that never worked and tweaked it so it might - and the deterrent has been strengthened by making deportation a
Thanks for the debate, but I haven’t seen anything that changes my view this is basically taking the Rwanda scheme that never worked and tweaked it so it might - and the deterrent has been strengthened by making deportation a
August 8, 2025 at 5:10 PM
😂 ok you’re getting somewhat ridiculous with your speculations now
Thanks for the debate, but I haven’t seen anything that changes my view this is basically taking the Rwanda scheme that never worked and tweaked it so it might - and the deterrent has been strengthened by making deportation a
Thanks for the debate, but I haven’t seen anything that changes my view this is basically taking the Rwanda scheme that never worked and tweaked it so it might - and the deterrent has been strengthened by making deportation a
😂 sorry if I touched a nerve, I was using an analogy to point out that a gov changing the law doesn’t mean it’s “legal”
Let’s see, as I say the argument of deporting to France breaks human rights is much weaker than Rwanda so I doubt it but let’s find out in time
Let’s see, as I say the argument of deporting to France breaks human rights is much weaker than Rwanda so I doubt it but let’s find out in time
August 8, 2025 at 5:05 PM
😂 sorry if I touched a nerve, I was using an analogy to point out that a gov changing the law doesn’t mean it’s “legal”
Let’s see, as I say the argument of deporting to France breaks human rights is much weaker than Rwanda so I doubt it but let’s find out in time
Let’s see, as I say the argument of deporting to France breaks human rights is much weaker than Rwanda so I doubt it but let’s find out in time
😂 and each attempt will be deported, so your argument is that criminals will keep paying despite no chance of gettting money back - seems hard to believe
August 8, 2025 at 5:03 PM
😂 and each attempt will be deported, so your argument is that criminals will keep paying despite no chance of gettting money back - seems hard to believe
Dictators change the law to make it “legal” to kill,that doesn’t make it “legal” - again the gov changed the law but still couldn’t deport,it was a massive waste of money and time that just resulted in the asylum hotels -the concept of deporting as a deterrent however was sound, and became this plan
August 8, 2025 at 4:59 PM
Dictators change the law to make it “legal” to kill,that doesn’t make it “legal” - again the gov changed the law but still couldn’t deport,it was a massive waste of money and time that just resulted in the asylum hotels -the concept of deporting as a deterrent however was sound, and became this plan
Criminals give away free money, I have to admit I never realised that before 😂
August 8, 2025 at 4:54 PM
Criminals give away free money, I have to admit I never realised that before 😂
Nope, if it was legal then it would have worked, as said it was constantly blocked and the gov tried to pretend it was legal
Asylum seekers never had a safe route before bar one or two temporary ones eg Ukraine - that was part of the issue…
Asylum seekers never had a safe route before bar one or two temporary ones eg Ukraine - that was part of the issue…
August 8, 2025 at 4:53 PM
Nope, if it was legal then it would have worked, as said it was constantly blocked and the gov tried to pretend it was legal
Asylum seekers never had a safe route before bar one or two temporary ones eg Ukraine - that was part of the issue…
Asylum seekers never had a safe route before bar one or two temporary ones eg Ukraine - that was part of the issue…
1 crossing normally uses all their savings, not sure how you think they’ll keep affording to cross - doubt the criminals will do it for free and there’s the risk of death aspect too. Plus all the asylum seekers who no longer need or want to cross as there’s a safe route
August 8, 2025 at 4:50 PM
1 crossing normally uses all their savings, not sure how you think they’ll keep affording to cross - doubt the criminals will do it for free and there’s the risk of death aspect too. Plus all the asylum seekers who no longer need or want to cross as there’s a safe route
fair human rights - it’s noticeable that since Labour came to power and started working within the law that deportations have exceeded the Tories who tried to break/ignore them. This new deal does the same
August 8, 2025 at 4:48 PM
fair human rights - it’s noticeable that since Labour came to power and started working within the law that deportations have exceeded the Tories who tried to break/ignore them. This new deal does the same
Not quite, Supreme Court ruled there were issues, the gov then changed the law so that the Supreme Court had to recognise it as safe despite nothing changing - that didn’t resolve the appeal courts, international law were still stopping flights
Not really, they believe everyone has the right to
Not really, they believe everyone has the right to
August 8, 2025 at 4:47 PM
Not quite, Supreme Court ruled there were issues, the gov then changed the law so that the Supreme Court had to recognise it as safe despite nothing changing - that didn’t resolve the appeal courts, international law were still stopping flights
Not really, they believe everyone has the right to
Not really, they believe everyone has the right to
By that measure then it would never be working, the human rights issues that blocked then deportations weren’t going anywhere
You keep referring to activists? It was just lawyers applying the law, something we all have a right to? As stated this builds on Rwanda by making the plan workable
You keep referring to activists? It was just lawyers applying the law, something we all have a right to? As stated this builds on Rwanda by making the plan workable
August 8, 2025 at 4:41 PM
By that measure then it would never be working, the human rights issues that blocked then deportations weren’t going anywhere
You keep referring to activists? It was just lawyers applying the law, something we all have a right to? As stated this builds on Rwanda by making the plan workable
You keep referring to activists? It was just lawyers applying the law, something we all have a right to? As stated this builds on Rwanda by making the plan workable
😂 by it working you mean filling up hotels with asylum seekers? Brilliant
Again, two years and multiple court cases and it failed to deport anyone over basic human rights issues - this tries that same thing again but resolved the human rights issue - same deterrent but should actually work
Again, two years and multiple court cases and it failed to deport anyone over basic human rights issues - this tries that same thing again but resolved the human rights issue - same deterrent but should actually work
August 8, 2025 at 4:25 PM
😂 by it working you mean filling up hotels with asylum seekers? Brilliant
Again, two years and multiple court cases and it failed to deport anyone over basic human rights issues - this tries that same thing again but resolved the human rights issue - same deterrent but should actually work
Again, two years and multiple court cases and it failed to deport anyone over basic human rights issues - this tries that same thing again but resolved the human rights issue - same deterrent but should actually work
It was implemented for 2 years, we deported zero and accepted over 20
Not really a Hail Mary, again you’re assuming people will keep crossing when they get sent back, that’s remarkably illogical
Not really a Hail Mary, again you’re assuming people will keep crossing when they get sent back, that’s remarkably illogical
August 8, 2025 at 4:13 PM
It was implemented for 2 years, we deported zero and accepted over 20
Not really a Hail Mary, again you’re assuming people will keep crossing when they get sent back, that’s remarkably illogical
Not really a Hail Mary, again you’re assuming people will keep crossing when they get sent back, that’s remarkably illogical
Blimey - I’m so sorry to see how out of normality and logic your thinking is, my sympathies. As stated, Rwanda was tried and failed utterly, this is the same plan but tweaked so we will be able to deport and have a deterrent to cross - a win for everyone providing the trial works
August 8, 2025 at 4:07 PM
Blimey - I’m so sorry to see how out of normality and logic your thinking is, my sympathies. As stated, Rwanda was tried and failed utterly, this is the same plan but tweaked so we will be able to deport and have a deterrent to cross - a win for everyone providing the trial works
happily risk their lives despite having zero chance of reward)
August 8, 2025 at 3:37 PM
happily risk their lives despite having zero chance of reward)