Clarified almost immediately that he was talking about the right to defend itself.

Which he's been consistent on.

He's often a clumsy speaker, often lead footed. But you do you.

I wasn't making a "defence". I was saying that you were misremembering. Which you were.

Here's the clip.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HQY...

Did you remember the bit where he says that international law shouldn't be breached?

He's definitely clumsy, but he's not saying what you say he is.

For what it's worth, it wasn't on TV, so you're misremembering.

If they can't get this through, I worry about how brave this parliament can be.

So much needs to change. It's a time to be radical, not safe.