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Thierry Grange
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Biologist, geneticist, genomics & paleogenomics, molecular biologist
Institut Jacques Monod, Paris
Studying human and animal evolution from a biological and historical perspective using ancient genomes.
#paleogenomics, #aDNA, #genomics, #domestication
Administrative retirement, but not yet ready to give up science. We will continue on another floor. No chance that we purify nuclei anymore, though. Enjoy it.
August 23, 2025 at 1:03 PM
Wrong link
August 16, 2025 at 7:14 AM
I started a scientific discussion with another colleague who posted this paper where I argued that these creations of new paleospecies names for a subset of bones were not helping in a better understanding of human evolution, on the contrary. He preferred to block me than being contradicted. 🥲
December 1, 2024 at 7:15 PM
If you can reformulate your question after reading them, if you still want to discuss this matter. Thanks.
December 1, 2024 at 12:35 PM
I will answer publicly later today. Meanwhile, you can find the articles I mentioned here filesender.renater.fr?s=download&t...
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December 1, 2024 at 11:00 AM
Defining categories can be useful to structure our thinking, but categories can be counterproductive when they hide the relationships that exist between different parts. I am concerned that many paleospecies fall into the counterproductive category.
November 30, 2024 at 11:39 AM
They do not result from a bona fide biological selection. The risk is just very high that phenotypic diversity within a metapopulation is overinterpreted as defining features of a biological species.
November 30, 2024 at 11:39 AM
Paleospecies are resulting from a different purely random process: the chances of a favorable set of taphonomic conditions favoring preservation and the serendipitous discovery of the bones.
November 30, 2024 at 11:39 AM
Biological species result from the subsampling through time of the past biodiversity and the various bushy branches of metapopulations. This subsampling was involving both selection and chance but has been validated by time and survival.
November 30, 2024 at 11:39 AM
I agree with your point and this is exactly why I am not convinced by many paleospecies, not talking about the very concept of paleospecies.
November 30, 2024 at 11:39 AM
There were good biological reasons that Svante Paabo did not name the Denisovans as Homo denisovans. I find it useful to integrate multiple perspectives. Genomics can, and should, in my view, widen the perspective of Paleoanthropology.
November 30, 2024 at 10:57 AM
I don't see that separating Homo longi and Denisovians into different species and renaming the Denisovians Homo juliensis is lumping and is clarifying the landscape.
November 30, 2024 at 10:52 AM
I read the paper just before posting anything. I see that they are oversplitting and even adding a new species, and I think that it had more confusion than clarity.
November 30, 2024 at 10:45 AM
... you can better describe it as a bushy evolution within (a) structured metapopulation(s) showing local phenotypic variability, sometime adaptative. Putting a few rigid boxes (species) into this complex landscape based on a few bones biases our thinking process and hides the full picture.
November 30, 2024 at 10:39 AM
The problem I see with the species concept is that it was used since the 18th century to describe highly divergent lineages after all the intermediate branches were removed through random evolution and sometimes selection. When you study the evolutionary process over a short (1 My) distance...
November 30, 2024 at 10:39 AM
Putting boxes (species names) around subparts of a bushy evolutionary tree hampers our understanding of evolution. See www.nature.com/articles/s41... for a better understanding of the complexity of human evolution integrating multiple genomes rather than relying just on isolated individual bones.
A weakly structured stem for human origins in Africa - Nature
An analysis of models of human populations in Africa, using some newly sequenced genomes, finds that human origins in the continent can best be described by a weakly structured stem model.
www.nature.com
November 30, 2024 at 9:58 AM
Thank you, Pedro, for your involvement in solving this issue.
November 29, 2024 at 9:24 AM
Thanks. I am glad you liked it.
November 28, 2024 at 6:31 PM