Will it be a hollow victory because Wilds is absolute Baby Mode compared to 4U? Of course. But, these days, I'll take what I can get

I wonder if, when we reach that point, devs will still refuse to do it because people are too used to glorified spandex. Have we passed that point already?

Online NSFW spaces need saving in more than one sense

Not "some" people. People currently in power. People who will be in power. People who will use that power to repress people whose existence they find immoral. Who will ride this wave to do so. Them being wrong won't stop that. Stopping the wave early might, and I think that's worth the weird porn.

1. They are also going after adult sites. See: multiple Japanese sites that stopped working with these payment processors rather than accept their new terms.

2. We are talking about things that are not porn because WE are PORN in the eyes of the people astroturfing this stuff.

We're arguing different standpoints.

You're arguing that certain actions are immoral. I agree 100%.

I'm arguing that the gun you use to kill fiction about those actions can and will be turned on fiction about people like you because the ones holding it find your existence to be immoral.

So the average US right-wing lawmaker DOESN'T mention gay and trans people in the same breath as pedophilia? I dreamt up the decades of them using obscenity laws to persecute us for existing? And I'm misunderstanding the people trying to legislate us back into the closet? Phew! That's a relief

Letting that be a basis for this kind just gives bigots in power permission to hurt vulnerable groups in tangible ways that no piece of "disgusting" fiction could ever hope to.

I need you to understand that, to a conservative (AKA the people ultimately behind these censorship efforts), a queer person like you is just as disgusting as those topics are to you.

I don't know which of your cats is which and at this point I refuse to learn

It's just funnier to respond to any picture/video of one of them with "It's *mumble*fie!"