also everyone going their own ways.. not worth making a new post. just yeah they were like welp guess rocks is fucked we bail. roger's crew actually loves him

and picking the marines over his own children. didn't move for ace but did for koby. i always read this as conditional love rather than him learning from ace's death and it pissed me off. i think it leans even more towards that now

also that he kinda doesnt gaf about civilians. he did say it was injustice but doesnt help them. didnt help them when rescuing koby either. wasnt freeing slaves or anything there. so if he's just protecting marines that's, worse??

re: garp.. so he just.. still really believes in the system even after all this? like he'd only want to protect them if he thinks theyre doing good. but he still believes in that even if theyre letting genocide island go on and actively contribute to buster calls? even if they kill moms and babies?

and i agree w ppl saying they looked like ace and luffy this chapter esp that one panel where they were next to each other. and the attacks too tho. is roger also crying that's sweet if so

it is just punching a lot and fast tbf, i doubt garp taught luffy anything. unless it was hands-on which isn't great

i like that rocks is crying and this is kind of a luffy thing to say. tho he'd figure out how to fix him. and he will, or has to, his friends are getting reversi'd. i guess it makes sense garp and luffy have a similar technique dunno how i feel about that. and did roger name ace after an attack lol

also this translation is probably more accurate than just 'marines' but not sure everyone knows those positions, though maybe context is enough.. i forgot haki was translated so clunky too but i guess u gotta keep with it once it's put down

protecting the ppl who would let a genocide go on? idfk man it's not like he's trying to unbrainwash them either, in fact contributing to the brainwashing. some ppl still glazing garp but what's he even doin. changes nothing just protects violent awful system and the ppl committing the violence ok

lol remember that cover where law was sleeping on a snow leopard and bepo was about to burn that bitch. got him back

i forgot if oden could. i think shira did have an ancestor

i don't really like that lol, garp isn't empathetic in the same way as luffy so it doesn't really make sense there, or it makes it more of a lineage thing which i don't really like. though maybe it always was a lineage thing, shirahoshi and momo seem like they had someone in their bloodline maybe

or well, oda backtracking writing bc no way did he have this planned lol, but he's good at tying it all together

i could be wrong about a lot of things here i wasn't paying that much attention to this part of the story

like it just seems like luffy's personality but dragon doesnt know that he was thrown to the wolves, and was so lonely that he'd let himself be beat up, and that he was tortured, and he almost died many times. harold was worse yeah but this isn't much different for the child

but that does make him kinda a bad dad. good person but not good father. tho i do now think he saw that luffy was braver and bolder than he ever was and is proud of that and realizes he probably wants his independence. but that's also bc luffy was raised crazy and half feral