The Smoogley
@smoogley21.bsky.social
Anti-Fascist, Anti-Capitalist, Humanist, Technologist, and Musician.
But you don't need to be a scientist to know they work.
So, do you get it now?
Has it been broken down simply enough?
There was no need for rudeness, yet here you are... still being unnecessarily rude.
It's OK though...I still enjoyed the back and forth. Good day.
So, do you get it now?
Has it been broken down simply enough?
There was no need for rudeness, yet here you are... still being unnecessarily rude.
It's OK though...I still enjoyed the back and forth. Good day.
December 9, 2025 at 4:52 AM
But you don't need to be a scientist to know they work.
So, do you get it now?
Has it been broken down simply enough?
There was no need for rudeness, yet here you are... still being unnecessarily rude.
It's OK though...I still enjoyed the back and forth. Good day.
So, do you get it now?
Has it been broken down simply enough?
There was no need for rudeness, yet here you are... still being unnecessarily rude.
It's OK though...I still enjoyed the back and forth. Good day.
That's... not a double standard lol...
Once again...
I baited you... you took the bait and you still don't recognize that you were baited even though i told you so.
You can BOTH defer to the scientific consensus and KNOW vaccines work.
If you are a scientist then you know HOW vaccines work...
Once again...
I baited you... you took the bait and you still don't recognize that you were baited even though i told you so.
You can BOTH defer to the scientific consensus and KNOW vaccines work.
If you are a scientist then you know HOW vaccines work...
December 9, 2025 at 4:52 AM
That's... not a double standard lol...
Once again...
I baited you... you took the bait and you still don't recognize that you were baited even though i told you so.
You can BOTH defer to the scientific consensus and KNOW vaccines work.
If you are a scientist then you know HOW vaccines work...
Once again...
I baited you... you took the bait and you still don't recognize that you were baited even though i told you so.
You can BOTH defer to the scientific consensus and KNOW vaccines work.
If you are a scientist then you know HOW vaccines work...
Yet again from the person who doesn't even address the theories and just lobs red herrings and ad hominems.
Go take a nap troll. 😂
If you care to educate yourself, go look up bayesian and binary theories.
Otherwise stop wasting both our time and energy. 😉
You've lost the subject with 0 candor.
Go take a nap troll. 😂
If you care to educate yourself, go look up bayesian and binary theories.
Otherwise stop wasting both our time and energy. 😉
You've lost the subject with 0 candor.
December 9, 2025 at 4:46 AM
Yet again from the person who doesn't even address the theories and just lobs red herrings and ad hominems.
Go take a nap troll. 😂
If you care to educate yourself, go look up bayesian and binary theories.
Otherwise stop wasting both our time and energy. 😉
You've lost the subject with 0 candor.
Go take a nap troll. 😂
If you care to educate yourself, go look up bayesian and binary theories.
Otherwise stop wasting both our time and energy. 😉
You've lost the subject with 0 candor.
Thanks for the discussion even though you need to work on your manners. 🤝✌️
December 9, 2025 at 4:41 AM
Thanks for the discussion even though you need to work on your manners. 🤝✌️
God claims don't have special pleading. That being said, the only honest position for unfalsifiable hypotheses is agnostcism.
Now that you have made yourself look like a total ignorant ass..
You can defer to the scientific consensus and also know vaccines work.
I'm gnostic that vaccines work.
Now that you have made yourself look like a total ignorant ass..
You can defer to the scientific consensus and also know vaccines work.
I'm gnostic that vaccines work.
December 9, 2025 at 4:41 AM
God claims don't have special pleading. That being said, the only honest position for unfalsifiable hypotheses is agnostcism.
Now that you have made yourself look like a total ignorant ass..
You can defer to the scientific consensus and also know vaccines work.
I'm gnostic that vaccines work.
Now that you have made yourself look like a total ignorant ass..
You can defer to the scientific consensus and also know vaccines work.
I'm gnostic that vaccines work.
I'm not treating that as a double standard... you're just claiming i am with no basis for the assertion.
I've only told you my belief about vaccines and your response has outed you for not having any clue what you're talking about since belief and knowledge are two different things.
I've only told you my belief about vaccines and your response has outed you for not having any clue what you're talking about since belief and knowledge are two different things.
December 9, 2025 at 4:34 AM
I'm not treating that as a double standard... you're just claiming i am with no basis for the assertion.
I've only told you my belief about vaccines and your response has outed you for not having any clue what you're talking about since belief and knowledge are two different things.
I've only told you my belief about vaccines and your response has outed you for not having any clue what you're talking about since belief and knowledge are two different things.
I'm an atheist. I don't believe in a god.
Are you now claiming a leading model of epistemology is "fake classifications" now?
There's nothing cowardly about accurately stating what you do and don't know or believe.
It's odd that you can't address the arguments, so you attack me instead. 🤔
Are you now claiming a leading model of epistemology is "fake classifications" now?
There's nothing cowardly about accurately stating what you do and don't know or believe.
It's odd that you can't address the arguments, so you attack me instead. 🤔
December 9, 2025 at 4:32 AM
I'm an atheist. I don't believe in a god.
Are you now claiming a leading model of epistemology is "fake classifications" now?
There's nothing cowardly about accurately stating what you do and don't know or believe.
It's odd that you can't address the arguments, so you attack me instead. 🤔
Are you now claiming a leading model of epistemology is "fake classifications" now?
There's nothing cowardly about accurately stating what you do and don't know or believe.
It's odd that you can't address the arguments, so you attack me instead. 🤔
More specifically, I am referring to the two-tier doxastic model of epistemology which utilizes both the bayesian (belief is credence) and binary (belief is binary/credence informs belief) models.
But please... tell me more about how I'm stupid and don't have an informed opinion...🤔🧐
But please... tell me more about how I'm stupid and don't have an informed opinion...🤔🧐
December 9, 2025 at 3:43 AM
More specifically, I am referring to the two-tier doxastic model of epistemology which utilizes both the bayesian (belief is credence) and binary (belief is binary/credence informs belief) models.
But please... tell me more about how I'm stupid and don't have an informed opinion...🤔🧐
But please... tell me more about how I'm stupid and don't have an informed opinion...🤔🧐
That's literally what epistemology is lol.
It's the study of the nature, origin, and limits of knowledge.
And no... nobody says you MUST talk about anything. Whether you talk about it or not, you believe or don't believe and you either know or you don't know and there is no in between.
It's the study of the nature, origin, and limits of knowledge.
And no... nobody says you MUST talk about anything. Whether you talk about it or not, you believe or don't believe and you either know or you don't know and there is no in between.
December 9, 2025 at 3:43 AM
That's literally what epistemology is lol.
It's the study of the nature, origin, and limits of knowledge.
And no... nobody says you MUST talk about anything. Whether you talk about it or not, you believe or don't believe and you either know or you don't know and there is no in between.
It's the study of the nature, origin, and limits of knowledge.
And no... nobody says you MUST talk about anything. Whether you talk about it or not, you believe or don't believe and you either know or you don't know and there is no in between.
Are you an epidemiologist or a virologist? Are you a doctor or even a biologist?
If not, then you would also be deferring to the scientific consensus that vaccines exist and that they are an effective treatment for viral infections.
Why do i sense emotion in this. These are just boring facts. 🤔
If not, then you would also be deferring to the scientific consensus that vaccines exist and that they are an effective treatment for viral infections.
Why do i sense emotion in this. These are just boring facts. 🤔
December 9, 2025 at 2:39 AM
Are you an epidemiologist or a virologist? Are you a doctor or even a biologist?
If not, then you would also be deferring to the scientific consensus that vaccines exist and that they are an effective treatment for viral infections.
Why do i sense emotion in this. These are just boring facts. 🤔
If not, then you would also be deferring to the scientific consensus that vaccines exist and that they are an effective treatment for viral infections.
Why do i sense emotion in this. These are just boring facts. 🤔
I'm an agnostic atheist. I do not believe in a god or gods, but I also do not claim to know there is no god or gods.
Agnostcism is the only honest position regarding unfalsifiable hypotheses.
Even if you claim the distinction is meaningless, you would still be agnostic in that scenario.
Agnostcism is the only honest position regarding unfalsifiable hypotheses.
Even if you claim the distinction is meaningless, you would still be agnostic in that scenario.
December 9, 2025 at 1:37 AM
I'm an agnostic atheist. I do not believe in a god or gods, but I also do not claim to know there is no god or gods.
Agnostcism is the only honest position regarding unfalsifiable hypotheses.
Even if you claim the distinction is meaningless, you would still be agnostic in that scenario.
Agnostcism is the only honest position regarding unfalsifiable hypotheses.
Even if you claim the distinction is meaningless, you would still be agnostic in that scenario.
Yes. They arrived upon my first comment in the thread. 😂
Do you claim to know it arrived or do you just believe it? 🤔
Do you claim to know it arrived or do you just believe it? 🤔
December 9, 2025 at 1:10 AM
Yes. They arrived upon my first comment in the thread. 😂
Do you claim to know it arrived or do you just believe it? 🤔
Do you claim to know it arrived or do you just believe it? 🤔
I do not believe in a god or gods. I am an atheist.
December 9, 2025 at 1:07 AM
I do not believe in a god or gods. I am an atheist.
That's not a universal objective truth. 🤔
December 9, 2025 at 1:05 AM
That's not a universal objective truth. 🤔
I'm not arguing for quadrants. I didn't even know about that until this thread.
Quadrants don't really work for this subject anyway since belief and knowledge are binary.
I'm merely stating universal objective truths.
Quadrants don't really work for this subject anyway since belief and knowledge are binary.
I'm merely stating universal objective truths.
December 9, 2025 at 12:58 AM
I'm not arguing for quadrants. I didn't even know about that until this thread.
Quadrants don't really work for this subject anyway since belief and knowledge are binary.
I'm merely stating universal objective truths.
Quadrants don't really work for this subject anyway since belief and knowledge are binary.
I'm merely stating universal objective truths.
What about vaccines? The existence of vaccines or the efficacy of vaccines?
Since I'm neither a virologist or an epidemiologist, I defer to the scientific consensus.
Are you a bot? Do you have something valuable to bring to the conversation?
Since I'm neither a virologist or an epidemiologist, I defer to the scientific consensus.
Are you a bot? Do you have something valuable to bring to the conversation?
December 9, 2025 at 12:52 AM
What about vaccines? The existence of vaccines or the efficacy of vaccines?
Since I'm neither a virologist or an epidemiologist, I defer to the scientific consensus.
Are you a bot? Do you have something valuable to bring to the conversation?
Since I'm neither a virologist or an epidemiologist, I defer to the scientific consensus.
Are you a bot? Do you have something valuable to bring to the conversation?
Religious faith is belief without good evidence or even without evidence at all.
If a person is honest, they cannot claim to "know" a god does or doesn't exist.
If a person is honest, they cannot claim to "know" a god does or doesn't exist.
December 8, 2025 at 11:43 PM
Religious faith is belief without good evidence or even without evidence at all.
If a person is honest, they cannot claim to "know" a god does or doesn't exist.
If a person is honest, they cannot claim to "know" a god does or doesn't exist.
Saying “the referent doesn’t exist” is already a knowledge claim.
To assert nonexistence, you must claim to know that nonexistence is true.
So rejecting agnosticism while declaring the entity nonexistent collapses into gnostic atheism, not a stance “beyond” knowability.
To assert nonexistence, you must claim to know that nonexistence is true.
So rejecting agnosticism while declaring the entity nonexistent collapses into gnostic atheism, not a stance “beyond” knowability.
December 8, 2025 at 7:51 PM
Saying “the referent doesn’t exist” is already a knowledge claim.
To assert nonexistence, you must claim to know that nonexistence is true.
So rejecting agnosticism while declaring the entity nonexistent collapses into gnostic atheism, not a stance “beyond” knowability.
To assert nonexistence, you must claim to know that nonexistence is true.
So rejecting agnosticism while declaring the entity nonexistent collapses into gnostic atheism, not a stance “beyond” knowability.
You either believe or you don't.
You either know or you don't.
Credence leads to belief and belief CAN lead to knowledge.
Belief is also not a choice. You're either convinced based on your credence or you aren't convinced.
I'm not stating opinion...these are objective truths.
You either know or you don't.
Credence leads to belief and belief CAN lead to knowledge.
Belief is also not a choice. You're either convinced based on your credence or you aren't convinced.
I'm not stating opinion...these are objective truths.
December 8, 2025 at 7:17 PM
You either believe or you don't.
You either know or you don't.
Credence leads to belief and belief CAN lead to knowledge.
Belief is also not a choice. You're either convinced based on your credence or you aren't convinced.
I'm not stating opinion...these are objective truths.
You either know or you don't.
Credence leads to belief and belief CAN lead to knowledge.
Belief is also not a choice. You're either convinced based on your credence or you aren't convinced.
I'm not stating opinion...these are objective truths.