Id recommend checking out the citations. There’s quite a few studies (for example on stress pathology and social anxiety) being transmitted.

I think we have a bit of a deontology vs consequentialist back and forth. I also don’t like the limited characters for an exchange like this. I also need to have dinner but I appreciate your thoughts. You’re making me use my noodle

If your ethical code considers the loss of life as inherently bad then yes

I suppose my stance is more so that eating meat is so ingrained in being human that it’s a more practical position to make access and consumption more difficult rather than outright ban/preach the killing of animals as inherently wrong. I also don’t think the act on its own is inherently wrong

Since you’re discussing eating for pleasure then yes I agree. But some would argue pleasure and survival are similar (a tolerable life “man does not live in bread alone” would be a relevant quote here lol)

I would like to ask if you feel like killing a sentient organism is ever justified

I don’t think I’m in a position to say what we shouldn’t or shouldn’t do if we endorse some moral relativism here. Sorry if I’m coming across a little anthrocentric

Fish, mollusk, fish, plant. And then we can ask if any of us actually have autonomy (ie free will) or if we’re all biologically driven by our desires and simply experiencing the clashing of subjectivities

Im not saying its morally ok. Im saying there’s no ground to base an objective morality on killing animals for meat. I personally feel that mass meat consumption is wrong but that’s not some universal Truth

Well the first part would be a difficult system to build an ethics off of. The desire of one subject (animal wanting to survive) vs the desire of another (us being hungry). Who takes precedent? Depends on who you are.

Yes vegan food is better for the environment when compared to mass meat farming