Simon
simon.poole.ch
Simon
@simon.poole.ch
Father, jack of many trades, open data cynic. Somewhat involved with OpenStreetMap

Allergic to monopolies and have a knack of making myself unpopular with them.

More active on mastodon as @simon@poole.ch
There's a poetic justice angle to this that I might expand on later.

#Internet #Nostaliga
November 2, 2025 at 11:51 AM
Domain names are, as the name says, names and not addresses and using the same logic the BAKOM could have just as well started regulating company names.

This was later, a lot later, patched up by changing the FMG (the Swiss telecom law) and creating a specific ordinance for domain names.
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November 2, 2025 at 11:51 AM
But instead of getting a multitude of interoperable operating system we ended up with a duopoly.

#EUnet #Nostalgia
October 26, 2025 at 9:58 AM
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myself, ch.network, July 31st 1992

I suppose this still kind of holds true for ISPs which was the topic of the discussion at the time.

#Internet #EUnet #Nostalgia
October 23, 2025 at 11:05 AM
In the mean time I'm fairly sure that the first demo was not in 89 but either late 90 or 91. There are simply conflicting accounts and as I said, this was still a non-event at the time.
October 20, 2025 at 12:04 PM
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So the UUCP maps might be the only way to at least roughly date it.

#EUnet #UUCP #Nostalgia
October 20, 2025 at 9:08 AM
What I'm specifically trying to pinpoint is when we started registering CH domains for UUCP sites, it doesn't seem this was announced anywhere that has survived the not quite 4 decades and maybe we just sent a mail at the time.

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October 20, 2025 at 9:08 AM
1989-1990 I managed them at SWITCH on chx400, that's not a secret either. But did we stop distributing them during that period, or did something else happen?

I don't have any mail archives from that period (for obvious reasons), but maybe somebody can remember.
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October 20, 2025 at 9:08 AM
... we didn't actually provide local Internet access in Geneva till 1993 (we did have mail and news customers there though).

* I can't verify this story one way or the other, while the history of the WWW is often told as a straight line going from A to B, it was anything but that.
October 18, 2025 at 4:08 PM
Just for those wondering: while we were connecting to the shared and #EUnet co-financed Internet access in Geneva at CERN at this time, and this was the actual first Internet presence in Switzerland operating since 1989, supposedly used by @timbl.bsky.social to demo the WWW in the same year*, ...
October 18, 2025 at 4:05 PM
1993 was a wild year with lots going on, including EUnet suing the EunetCom consortium of France Telecom and Deutsche Telecom. That was the start of too many learning experiences that to this day #OpenStreetMap suffers from now and then when I start pontificating about protecting your trademarks 😎
October 17, 2025 at 3:49 PM
... giving the current Swiss status as an example. I had completely forgotten that Basel had been our first POP outside of Zürich in June 92, Geneva, Berne and Lugano followed the 93.

The POPs provided leased line and dial-up access with us working on providing X.25 and ISDN as well.

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October 17, 2025 at 3:49 PM
Joking aside (I wasn't expecting many to get it to start with), there's actually an historic #OpenStreetMap link there: osmarender wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmaren... was powered by XSLT github.com/openstreetma...
Osmarender - OpenStreetMap Wiki
wiki.openstreetmap.org
August 7, 2025 at 6:16 AM