We might slam Bitcoin for using energy, but what does it take to mine lithium and build batteries? That process chews up water, land, and emits a ton of carbon, along with predatory financial repression/colonialism. If we’re talking environmental costs, it should be consistent across all tech.
November 11, 2025 at 9:16 PM
We might slam Bitcoin for using energy, but what does it take to mine lithium and build batteries? That process chews up water, land, and emits a ton of carbon, along with predatory financial repression/colonialism. If we’re talking environmental costs, it should be consistent across all tech.
Saying Bitcoin has no redeeming value might miss the point, it's debatable for another day. Evidently, miners turn electricity into something that’s redeemable anywhere — no banks, no trust, no permissions. If that system didn’t work, it wouldn’t be global and liquid market of $2.3 trillion today.
November 11, 2025 at 9:15 PM
Saying Bitcoin has no redeeming value might miss the point, it's debatable for another day. Evidently, miners turn electricity into something that’s redeemable anywhere — no banks, no trust, no permissions. If that system didn’t work, it wouldn’t be global and liquid market of $2.3 trillion today.
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November 11, 2025 at 8:52 PM
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It’s a classic free-rider problem — jurisdictions can always re-site; bans just shift location, not demand. Methane, for instance, is 80x more harmful than CO₂ short-term. Even vilified Bitcoin miners, acting as cleanup buyers, can mitigate more carbon than blanket prohibitions could. In my opinion.
November 11, 2025 at 8:47 PM
It’s a classic free-rider problem — jurisdictions can always re-site; bans just shift location, not demand. Methane, for instance, is 80x more harmful than CO₂ short-term. Even vilified Bitcoin miners, acting as cleanup buyers, can mitigate more carbon than blanket prohibitions could. In my opinion.
I read the article — it’s clear there’s growing political energy on both sides to rein in AI, data centres, and mining. But I don’t see how that could be enforced globally. Couldn't we make quicker progress tackling the 60–70% of U.S. energy wasted yearly — making use of vented methane for instance?
November 11, 2025 at 8:46 PM
I read the article — it’s clear there’s growing political energy on both sides to rein in AI, data centres, and mining. But I don’t see how that could be enforced globally. Couldn't we make quicker progress tackling the 60–70% of U.S. energy wasted yearly — making use of vented methane for instance?
lol yeah I only knew because someone else posted it earlier this week and took it down after realizing it was fake.
November 11, 2025 at 7:47 PM
lol yeah I only knew because someone else posted it earlier this week and took it down after realizing it was fake.
This is funny, but it’s AI.
November 11, 2025 at 4:18 PM
This is funny, but it’s AI.
Emerging markets are a good example — bitcoin miners chasing wasted or stranded energy where no one else would. It’s those kinds of incentives I hope will grow while the massive data centres eventually fail.
November 10, 2025 at 8:25 PM
Emerging markets are a good example — bitcoin miners chasing wasted or stranded energy where no one else would. It’s those kinds of incentives I hope will grow while the massive data centres eventually fail.
Yeah nothing shameful about that at all. I’m not a fan of AI and data centres, or big bitcoin mining ops with power contract arbitrage, but it’s hard to imagine the world stopping their use or development. More realistically, they should be forced to hook their power in away from residential grids.
November 10, 2025 at 8:25 PM
Yeah nothing shameful about that at all. I’m not a fan of AI and data centres, or big bitcoin mining ops with power contract arbitrage, but it’s hard to imagine the world stopping their use or development. More realistically, they should be forced to hook their power in away from residential grids.
I mean.. I subscribe to the idea that a lot is still misunderstood about Bitcoin miners and climate action, and I knew the image was AI.
But I found it funny nonetheless 🤣
Props for the accountability though
But I found it funny nonetheless 🤣
Props for the accountability though
November 10, 2025 at 8:06 PM
I mean.. I subscribe to the idea that a lot is still misunderstood about Bitcoin miners and climate action, and I knew the image was AI.
But I found it funny nonetheless 🤣
Props for the accountability though
But I found it funny nonetheless 🤣
Props for the accountability though
It’s just ironic, is all. You said it has no value “on paper,” but it clearly does.
From the post you quoted, it sounds like you’re saying Bitcoin’s growth is speculative, detached from fundamentals. But it grew organically, outside the traditional system, which kind of is the fundamental value.
From the post you quoted, it sounds like you’re saying Bitcoin’s growth is speculative, detached from fundamentals. But it grew organically, outside the traditional system, which kind of is the fundamental value.
November 7, 2025 at 4:27 AM
It’s just ironic, is all. You said it has no value “on paper,” but it clearly does.
From the post you quoted, it sounds like you’re saying Bitcoin’s growth is speculative, detached from fundamentals. But it grew organically, outside the traditional system, which kind of is the fundamental value.
From the post you quoted, it sounds like you’re saying Bitcoin’s growth is speculative, detached from fundamentals. But it grew organically, outside the traditional system, which kind of is the fundamental value.
With no signs of stopping 🤣
Perhaps there’s a reason for that besides the headlines you read.
Perhaps there’s a reason for that besides the headlines you read.
November 6, 2025 at 11:26 PM
With no signs of stopping 🤣
Perhaps there’s a reason for that besides the headlines you read.
Perhaps there’s a reason for that besides the headlines you read.
“Bitcoin has no value of any kind”
Also…
“Many people have gotten phenomenally wealthy ‘betting’ on it”
Also…
“Many people have gotten phenomenally wealthy ‘betting’ on it”
November 6, 2025 at 11:24 PM
“Bitcoin has no value of any kind”
Also…
“Many people have gotten phenomenally wealthy ‘betting’ on it”
Also…
“Many people have gotten phenomenally wealthy ‘betting’ on it”
Looks like someone’s been reading old news headlines.
November 5, 2025 at 6:50 PM
Looks like someone’s been reading old news headlines.
“Intrinsic value” is a myth. Even gold’s value isn’t intrinsic—it’s agreed upon. Value exists where people find utility and trust, and Bitcoin’s no different.
If Bitcoin was not secure and couldn’t verifiably be measured in real energy which can’t be cheated, it wouldn’t have a $2 trillion mkt cap.
If Bitcoin was not secure and couldn’t verifiably be measured in real energy which can’t be cheated, it wouldn’t have a $2 trillion mkt cap.
November 4, 2025 at 3:49 PM
“Intrinsic value” is a myth. Even gold’s value isn’t intrinsic—it’s agreed upon. Value exists where people find utility and trust, and Bitcoin’s no different.
If Bitcoin was not secure and couldn’t verifiably be measured in real energy which can’t be cheated, it wouldn’t have a $2 trillion mkt cap.
If Bitcoin was not secure and couldn’t verifiably be measured in real energy which can’t be cheated, it wouldn’t have a $2 trillion mkt cap.
Bitcoin:
Open protocol stack similar to TCP/IP or SMTP. No permission required to run open protocol stacks. No person or group in charge that can compromise security.
Crypto/NFTs:
CEO in charge, sketchy funding, celebrity endorsements, stadium sponsorships, multilevel marketing schemes for gains
Open protocol stack similar to TCP/IP or SMTP. No permission required to run open protocol stacks. No person or group in charge that can compromise security.
Crypto/NFTs:
CEO in charge, sketchy funding, celebrity endorsements, stadium sponsorships, multilevel marketing schemes for gains
November 3, 2025 at 5:22 PM
Bitcoin:
Open protocol stack similar to TCP/IP or SMTP. No permission required to run open protocol stacks. No person or group in charge that can compromise security.
Crypto/NFTs:
CEO in charge, sketchy funding, celebrity endorsements, stadium sponsorships, multilevel marketing schemes for gains
Open protocol stack similar to TCP/IP or SMTP. No permission required to run open protocol stacks. No person or group in charge that can compromise security.
Crypto/NFTs:
CEO in charge, sketchy funding, celebrity endorsements, stadium sponsorships, multilevel marketing schemes for gains
Lots of VCs are zombies. They’ll be sitting on capital “expiring” because it either has to be invested or given back—so they’ll look for any half-assed pitch with a 10 year roadmap to buy, market and dump on the next guy. It’s unreal.
November 3, 2025 at 5:17 AM
Lots of VCs are zombies. They’ll be sitting on capital “expiring” because it either has to be invested or given back—so they’ll look for any half-assed pitch with a 10 year roadmap to buy, market and dump on the next guy. It’s unreal.
stay away from this folks
November 3, 2025 at 5:01 AM
stay away from this folks
I’m a big fan of Bitcoin but I don’t think we’ll see US dollars or yen go away in our lifetime.
October 29, 2025 at 4:11 PM
I’m a big fan of Bitcoin but I don’t think we’ll see US dollars or yen go away in our lifetime.