*Manhattan. Frozen fingers!

Doolittle.

Buffy getting the class protector award is one of the sweetest moments of american television

Ouch.

I KNOW

Me talking to sommelier [daddy pig voice]: "well know i'm a bit of an epic expert myself...."

because the cycles are later!

It's interesting how early works of art with monumental aspirations like the François Vase or the chest of Cypselus don't pay any heed to narrative 'cycles' but instead juxtapose scenes from all over the tradition.

11. The privileging of Trojan War narratives as part of these efforts has suppressed the extent and importance of non-Trojan War epics: e.g. Thebais, Oedipodea, Heraklea

10. The fragments and their summaries were selected to facilitate point #2 and are likely secondary or tertiary selections rather than excerpts taken from whole poems at the hands of Hellenistic editors.

9. This subordination occurred either as part of trying to tell the whole story of The Trojan War or as evidence of the aesthetic superiority of the Iliad and the Odyssey

8. Everything we know about the epic cycle is subordinate to the Iliad and the Odyssey as canonized, monumentalized epics.

7. The positivistic assumption of the epic cycle as a stable set of texts and plots reasserts textual and literary aesthetics on a system that was much more fluid and dynamic (leading to a range of interpretive problems)

6. The Epic Cycle is an initial creation of Hellenistic scholars trying to provide narrative and aesthetic frameworks for the Iliad and the Odyssey. This initial creation has been concretized by subsequent Classical scholarship, a process intensified by some of the scholarship of the past decade.

5. There is significant evidence of Trojan War narratives in other genres: lyric, elegiac, iconographic contemporaneous to or even prior to the epics we possess

4. Our emphasis on the Epic Cycle is skewed by the gravity of Homer: We have more extensive fragments from Panyassis and Aristeas than we have for anything from the epic cycle

3. There is evidence of long narrative poems about other traditions (e.g. Thebais)

2. All of our evidence comes from Aristotle and later. The evidence is from literary scholars treating the Iliad and the Odyssey as texts.

1. There is no evidence of a series of epic poems that told the whole story of the Trojan War from the same performance tradition and period of the composition of the Iliad and the Odyssey