Fair point. But I meant this current phase of the impending apocalypse. Dog whistling via mass media. Firing people up but no actual solution. No concern for consequences.

So far liking it. And after avoiding politics chat on the other place for a while good to dip toe back in here. And good not to be enraged by scrolling through social media!

Cheers Kenny. That's a very decent list to get things started here on the sunny side. All followed. Liking this starter pack idea.